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Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« on: September 05, 2010, 09:56:50 pm »
Our stage 1 maps always make similar power to most others, with average peak figures of 240(ish) bhp and 270-280 ft/lb. This is usually enough for most and it's not always possible to spend time developing maps on customers cars (effectively creating a custom map)

A customer came in for a dyno run on a 2006 gti with minor mods, original air box with replacement filter element and a milltek catback system. Good results were achieved with it making 220ft/lb and 205bhp. We discussed a Revo remap but the customer decided to have one of our own maps installed there and then, so out came the laptop and a few hours later we saw the best ever figures we have had on our dyno from a K03 car with such minor mods!

Bhp improved from 205 to 262
Torque improved from 220 to 315 ft/lb

(measured on a dyno dynamics dyno in shootout mode)

I have spent the last 4 hours looking over maps and comparing this particular map to 50+ other ko3 remaps we have on file, the biggest difference is in the way we modified the torque limit map structure and the n75 map, this has produced a much stronger torque curve that holds for far longer throughout the rpm range and doesn't drop off in the same way that most ko3 power curves seem to. Intake temps are all good and with only 3 degrees of ignition retardation and sensible EGT values.

Now my thinking is that this could have been a 1 off, just a car that did better than most? So what I need is 2 people that want a remap, either on a standard car or mildly modified that have a late model gti with k03 turbo. I will carry out a full custom map with dyno testing and data logging etc.. For around £100. This is more to satisfy my curiosity than anything else and at the same time a couple of forum members can get a bargain.   

Here is a post by the customer: http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?p=62116#post62116

And a copy of the dyno graph is here: http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=418&d=1283641676



Just wished I had spent more time on my own k03 car now before dismissing it for the k04 ed30. Just need to see if the results can be replicated on some more cars. Hope someone finds this post useful and if any other tuners are interested in this software version, message me  :happy2:

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 10:08:09 pm »
Do you not fancy doing an edition 30 for that price  :wink:

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 08:52:27 am »
And then to move onto a K04 and see if you can replicate the percentage gains on a K04 based engine as well as a K03 based engine?

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 09:29:29 am »
would love to - except that i'm at the wrong end of the country for you...  :ashamed:

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 09:38:16 am »
Where are you based? Would it be a problem if my car already has a REVO remap?

Ive got a 2007 GTi with a Miltek cat back and VWR panel filter so the same mods as the car you have already done.

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 10:40:33 am »
kinda messes up my plans for stage 3 with my current supplier or i would be up.
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2010, 10:47:06 am »

I'm on a stock K03 and I live near Glasgow.  I'm going to Canada this week, but I'd be interested if you would take me in a couple of weeks time...?  :pomppomp:
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2010, 11:03:36 am »
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Interesting.. On JKM's Dyno-Dynamics I was consistently seeing around 240 bhp on Revo Stage 2! And now it's only the addition of the Forge Twintake which has taken my K03 GTI to around 260 bhp. Great driveability though and that's what matters to me most.


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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2010, 11:11:52 am »
Interested in a ED30, Dave? I'm only round the corner from you too  :wink:

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2010, 11:28:53 am »
Very interested. Completely boggo standard 2006 KO3. Just ripe for tinkering. I'm in Bristol but will travel. :driver: Let me know what you think, although not as late a model as you're probably after.
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2010, 02:05:55 pm »
Hi Lads,

Not interested in extending this offer to the K04 cars as I have one already, however we will do some great prices on our own maps for forum members. If you have a K03 and are genuinely interested and can come along this week, call me. I have one member coming in today so will update later with results.

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2010, 02:12:40 pm »
^^^ where are you located? did a bit of a trawl via your links etc ...North East of England?
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2010, 02:33:14 pm »
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2010, 03:58:32 pm »
Balls why is the good stuff always the other side of the country would of taken you up on the offer otherwise


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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2010, 06:14:52 pm »
Just a quick note, 2forum members have been in touch and booked in. Thanks for the offers lads.

One that we tuned today made great figures and lovely torque curves but I am sure they will be online soon to update you themselves once they have had a bit of fun on the way home :laugh: