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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2010, 10:13:52 pm »
the car pulls hard all the way with no drops or stutters :happy2:
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2010, 10:16:10 pm »
Fuel pumps help keep pressure up, there are ways to add fuel to a map without adding pump a pressure  :wink:

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2010, 10:16:49 pm »
Tbh revo stage2+ seems pretty much perfect!

Depends who you ask   :surprised:

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2010, 10:21:19 pm »
ignoring the curves of which id expect the stage 2+ to be better,  you have a standard car making 260Hp/313ibft with no hardware upgrades.  

most revo stage 2+ cars are making between 260/270hp and 300Ibft on dyno dynamic rollers  with intakes, intercoolers, discharge pipes, and HPFP.

so if you can manage that with the stage 1 due to being able to customise, surely the same can happen for a fully modded k03??
Fuel pumps help keep pressure up, there are ways to add fuel to a map without adding pump a pressure  :wink:

 im not saying your wrong, because evidently i am not a subject matter expert, but why did the two biggest names in vag tuning, APR and REVO with their huge R&D depts and budgets take so long to sort it outthe maps so they had no fuel cut and further more take an age to develop the stage 2+ maps



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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2010, 10:23:03 pm »
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can u post the graphs up m8 :jumpmove:
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2010, 10:24:26 pm »
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can u post the graphs up m8 :jumpmove:
x2, but please scale them similar to the jkm Dyno dynamics style.  much easier to analyze/compare to others etc IMO

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2010, 10:27:45 pm »
hPFP is the best way, and for stg2+ they are 100% essential, revo and Giac are not a custom map so they have their limitations, they can't ask each and every dealer to start dyno testing every car and fine tuning fuel injector duration, so a bolt on HPFP is the simplest option to match their ready made software.

Giac stage 1 seems to be about the best stg1 software out there at present ( and that's coming from a Revo dealer) I have tested 2 cars, both made around 255bhp with over 300ft/lb on otherwise standard cars.

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2010, 10:30:59 pm »
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can u post the graphs up m8 :jumpmove:

Do you have a copy of the graph from today? If so can you post it? If not I can possibly get a copy posted tomorrow.  Unless someone can post a copy of a graph if I email them a pic? Just post up your email address.

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2010, 10:32:40 pm »
hi m8 yeah i got a copy but i dont have a scanner. not sure how to upload pics on here :signLOL:
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2010, 10:33:41 pm »
take a pic and upload it to photo bucket

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2010, 10:36:54 pm »


Giac stage 1 seems to be about the best stg1 software out there at present ( and that's coming from a Revo dealer) I have tested 2 cars, both made around 255bhp with over 300ft/lb on otherwise standard cars.

That's good to hear! So, the figures that I thought were perhaps a little on the 'generous' side may not be so far fetched after all!

Cheers mate.  :happy2:

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2010, 10:38:33 pm »
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ill have a go at posting them
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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2010, 10:41:31 pm »
What about the VCDS logs?  Do you have any?

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2010, 10:50:47 pm »
Yes but not available right now. Have emailed a graph to a member on here to post.

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Re: Power from a stage 1 map? Possibly more than you would think!
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2010, 10:53:30 pm »
Yes but not available right now. Have emailed a graph to a member on here to post.
did u send them 2 me or sum1 else?
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