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ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
john_o:
gareth, TT has always maintained
--- Quote ---Different technical specifications to pistons, cylinder heads and camshafts.
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between S3 and Ed30/Cupra et al.......
Remapping doesnt always appear to give the same results either!
gazbutS3:
--- Quote from: matt a on February 04, 2009, 10:46:16 pm ---Great! As I thought. So my original question stands: Would the KO3 GTI be able to handle 310-360bhp.
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general opinion from the tuners is the regular GTi internals are good for 330-340ish
garethmk1:
--- Quote from: john_o on February 04, 2009, 10:51:33 pm ---gareth, TT has always maintained
--- Quote ---Different technical specifications to pistons, cylinder heads and camshafts.
--- End quote ---
between S3 and Ed30/Cupra et al.......
Remapping doesnt always appear to give the same results either!
--- End quote ---
From the problems I'm experiencing with my remap, and numerous discussions, conversations etc etc - it seems that the differences in output are down to the exhaust downpipe varience between the motors. I know the S3 and ED30 motors have different downpipes, not sure about the Cupra - I'll check part numbers on etka.
Regards,
Gareth :happy2:
jonnyc:
--- Quote from: gazbutmk5gti on February 04, 2009, 11:03:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: matt a on February 04, 2009, 10:46:16 pm ---Great! As I thought. So my original question stands: Would the KO3 GTI be able to handle 310-360bhp.
--- End quote ---
general opinion from the tuners is the regular GTi internals are good for 330-340ish
--- End quote ---
APR, VF etc etc all tune ther stage 3 type kits for the 200hp 2.0T FSI cars to around the 375BHP mark as this is seen to be a safe power level for the standard internals. By safe, they feel its super safe! Hence why they would tune the cars to that level.. They could get a lot more pretty easily, and the engine would take it. But not for long..
The reason as far as I can tell for the bent rods with K04 turbo's in the US have both been bad tuning, I have a PM from one of the guys saying that both failures were down to massive amounts of advanced ignition, huge heat, pinking etc etc..
Both of those cars were on 'custom' engine maps..
Honestly, K04 on a K03 engine is safe, and Im not just saying that because I have one for sale..
Jonny
Hurdy:
--- Quote from: jonnyc on February 04, 2009, 11:54:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: gazbutmk5gti on February 04, 2009, 11:03:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: matt a on February 04, 2009, 10:46:16 pm ---Great! As I thought. So my original question stands: Would the KO3 GTI be able to handle 310-360bhp.
--- End quote ---
general opinion from the tuners is the regular GTi internals are good for 330-340ish
--- End quote ---
APR, VF etc etc all tune ther stage 3 type kits for the 200hp 2.0T FSI cars to around the 375BHP mark as this is seen to be a safe power level for the standard internals. By safe, they feel its super safe! Hence why they would tune the cars to that level.. They could get a lot more pretty easily, and the engine would take it. But not for long..
The reason as far as I can tell for the bent rods with K04 turbo's in the US have both been bad tuning, I have a PM from one of the guys saying that both failures were down to massive amounts of advanced ignition, huge heat, pinking etc etc..
Both of those cars were on 'custom' engine maps..
Honestly, K04 on a K03 engine is safe, and Im not just saying that because I have one for sale..
Jonny
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That's good to know Jonny....and reassuring too. :happy2:
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