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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2009, 08:48:11 pm »
Thank you.  For the engine code. :drinking:

The way i did this was go into each verson of ETKA and write down on a bit of paper the numbers for head complete, piston complete, camshaft intake, camshaft exhaust for each engine code for the edition 30 given above and the cupra and S3.

I then compared the numbers on my list, this is my findings. Im not saying they are correct what i am saying is simply what my version of ETKA is saying.

S3 BHZ
Cylinder head complete 06F103063P or 06F103063PX
Piston complete 06D107066K
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102D
Camshaft intake 06F109101G

Seat Cupra BWJ
Cylinder head complete 06F103063P or 06F103063PX
Piston complete 06D107066K
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102D
Camshaft intake 06F109101G

Edition 30 BYD
Cylinder head complete 06F103063PX
Piston complete 06D107066K
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102D
Camshaft intake 06F109101G



Normal GTi BWA
Cylinder head complete 06F103063NX
Piston complete 06D107066C
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102B
Camshaft intake 06F109101B

Normal GTi AXX
Cylinder head complete 06F103063NX
Piston complete 06D107066D
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102B
Camshaft intake 06F109101B

« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 09:04:11 pm by 182_blue »
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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2009, 08:49:51 pm »
how about other parts ?, plus can you get normal GTI ?

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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2009, 08:51:06 pm »
It takes ages to do  :laugh: I did go through all sorts before and posted it on another forum years ago i remember it taking me many hours. ETKA is such a pain in the a$$ to use.
yes i can get normal GTI which one AXX or BWA?
« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 08:53:07 pm by Snoopy »
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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2009, 08:53:40 pm »
It takes ages to do  :laugh: I did go through all sorts before and posted it on another forum years ago i remember it taking me many hours.
yes i can get normal GTI which one AXX or BWA?

sorry dont know what the GTi code is, just want to see if thats different as what you posted above directly contradicts some rumours  :happy2:

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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2009, 09:02:36 pm »
Again did this without checking what the others above were so
BWA
Cylinder head complete 06F103063NX
Piston complete 06D107066C
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102B
Camshaft intake 06F109101B

AXX
Cylinder head complete 06F103063NX
Piston complete 06D107066D
Camshaft exhaust 06F109102B
Camshaft intake 06F109101B
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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2009, 09:04:41 pm »
interesting, i added them to the other post

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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2009, 09:08:10 pm »
^^^^
Hats off to you for your work, Geoff.

It looks like there are more similarities than some people claim.

I assume the last letter can signify a revision : -

06D107066C

06D107066D

^ So that D is a later revision of the same part?


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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2009, 09:16:54 pm »
interesting, i added them to the other post
You can tell, there is no way i would spell GTI with a small i. lol :grin: :wink:
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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2009, 09:33:32 pm »
Robin, Sort of. 

Just had a quick spy again so i may have got this wrong. :ashamed:
1 set of Con rods
BHZ 06F198401
BYD 06F198401
BWJ 06F198401
BWA 06D198401C
AXX 06D198401B

Crankshaft
BHZ 06A105021AR
BYD 06A105021AR
BWJ 06A105021AR
BWA 06A105021S
AXX 06A105021S


As i said im just quoting from my version of ETKA i have at home im not saying its right or wrong. It maybe wrong and the latest update has corrected mistakes i don't know at this time.



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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2009, 09:42:46 pm »
Looks like you've got good taste in cars Snoopy - same collection as mine  :happy2:

The information you have supplied is correct and its exactly what VWR and JKM have told me - the S3, Cupra and Ed30 parts are identical - pistons, camshaft etc...  Unless of course they don't know how to interpret ETKA data - because the part numbers are under different engine codes - but that is far fetched.... As far as they are concerned, if the ETKA code is identical, then the parts are the SAME!  So there TT  :angry015:

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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2009, 09:45:14 pm »
^^ Yeah you can't argue with part numbers can you!

But T_T has ETKA, so surely must have noticed the similarity in the part numbers also? I'd like to hear his reasons for why he is so convinced that the two are so different. There must be logic in his argument somewhere, otherwise he wouldn't be so adamant about it.

But part numbers don't lie....
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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2009, 09:46:26 pm »
Any one seen this website from JD Engineering?  they where in this months Golf+ mag. http://www.jdengineering.nl/ you might just have to click on the mk5/audi a3 at the right hand site of the home page.

more or less past 310bhp your going to need k04 then past 370bhp it goes to a ballbearing turbo and so on and so on.

Sorry about the translation but this is the 376bhp package

Complete turboset incl.ballbearing turbo, special spruitstuk incl. to fail piping, filter, larger air mass meter etc. incl. spec. Bougies, adapted benzinedruk, larger injectoren, larger petrol pump forged pistons with lower compressie, h profile drijfstangen special lower, koppaking etc. Powercontroller, several scores and versnellingsafhankelijk complete exhaust system & Chiptuning tailored, on role bank

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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2009, 09:48:15 pm »
"Complete turboset incl.Twinscroll ballbearing turbo, speciaal spruitstuk in voorbereiding/testfase    >500pk    600Nm"

I like the sound of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2009, 10:00:44 pm »
There golf GTI is running DSG with nearly 500bhp and over 500nm of torque :laugh: :scared: it limites boost in 1st to 0.8bar then 2nd to 1.2bar and 3rd to 1.7 4th and up to 2.0

There golf gti





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Re: ed30, same engine internals as Normal gti
« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2009, 10:17:12 pm »
There golf GTI is running DSG with nearly 500bhp and over 500nm of torque :laugh: :scared: it limites boost in 1st to 0.8bar then 2nd to 1.2bar and 3rd to 1.7 4th and up to 2.0

There golf gti





Darren

Is that a normal DSG gearbox though?  If so, I'd be interested to see how many miles the car has done with that power  :surprised: