H&R 20mm Springs

[rdfcpete]

I'm currently looking for a set of 20mm H&R springs (ideally just like SteveP's old ones and Beddies current springs).

I'm running Speedline Audi S-Line Split wheels which have an offset of ET54 and are 18x7.5. The rear axle is also due to have 10mm wheel spacers to 'hench up' the stance of the rear alloys a little.

I often have three or sometimes four passengers in the car - Would this become a problem with that setup, are any rubbing or scraping problems likely?

Suspension is all currently OEM.

Thanks.

[Beddie]

I'm running the VWR branded AP -20mm springs and have 10mm spacers both front and rear, never had any rubbing issues even when loaded with 3 people in the back but did have minor rubbing issues on the front when hitting sharp dips at speed etc, removing the screw at the top of the arch liner has sorted that out a treat though 
My Pescaras are ET51 so with the slightly higher offset of your wheels you will be perfectly fine imo 

[rdfcpete]

Sorry fella, I thought you had H&Rs for some reason - tidy.

That's positive feedback, thanks. I'm not going to run spacers at the front so that should rule that out anyhow.
On the VWR website it says from £161 excl VAT for the 20mm springs - does that mean the price differs and if so, based on what?

[Beddie]

Sorry fella, I thought you had H&Rs for some reason - tidy.

That's positive feedback, thanks. I'm not going to run spacers at the front so that should rule that out anyhow.
On the VWR website it says from £161 excl VAT for the 20mm springs - does that mean the price differs and if so, based on what?

VWR have different fitments for the springs depending on the front axle loading for the difference in weight for manual and DSG cars, if buying again i'd cut out VWR as the middle man and get the AP springs much cheaper from somewhere like DPM Performance, exactly the same in every way but without the VWR tax...  

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/ap-20mm-lowering-suspension-springsbr-golf-5-gt-14t-si-gti-20t-fsi-gt-20tdi-1204-p-5952.html

[rdfcpete]

Ace, thanks again  

How do they ride compared with the OEM springs, in terms of comfort?

[Beddie]

Ace, thanks again  

How do they ride compared with the OEM springs, in terms of comfort?

Ride imo is slightly more comfortable than stock as the springs seem to suit the damping rate better 

[B3n]

Thank god ive just read this thread i was going to buy the VWR ones tomorrow so it looks like ill buy these instead

[rdfcpete]

So you owe Steve a pint then ehhh fella?!                                                            

[Garth]

Hang on, is someone suggesting that these lowered springs are MORE comfortable than stock springs????

I desperately need to order some springs by tomorrow (my front two have snapped!) and I want to go slightly lower, but not at the expense of a decent ride. I did loads of research and found that H&R sport springs seem to be a bit harder riding than Eibach sportlines and the general concensus is that Eibach prolines don't actually lower at all.

I was about to order Eibach sportlines today, but does anyone know what the difference in comfort is between the AP's and eibach's?? There'd deffo be a pint in it for someone that can tell me that!
 

[rdfcpete]

^^ In about a fortnight Garth I'd be able to tell you!

I'm based in Northants so if you're closeby, you could have a drive too but sounds like you need a set more urgently which might be a problem.
I'm of the same opinion as you - I want to drop it but only a bit and sacrificing ride comfort is simply a no go. Replacing the dampers also isn't an option for me at this stage.

Steve's feedback has encouraged me though so I'm going to gamble and the worst case scenario is I'll put the OEM springs back on within a week or so if the ride is crap. £160 quid as a gamble isn't toooo bad 

[keano]

Hang on, is someone suggesting that these lowered springs are MORE comfortable than stock springs????

I desperately need to order some springs by tomorrow (my front two have snapped!) and I want to go slightly lower, but not at the expense of a decent ride. I did loads of research and found that H&R sport springs seem to be a bit harder riding than Eibach sportlines and the general concensus is that Eibach prolines don't actually lower at all.

I was about to order Eibach sportlines today, but does anyone know what the difference in comfort is between the AP's and eibach's?? There'd deffo be a pint in it for someone that can tell me that!
 

I've put ridiculous hours into researching this Garth. Just need to make a purchase now!

Many reviews say that the sportlines are v.harsh- and some have resorted to taking them out all together.

H&R is a popular choice, lowers a tad more than the sportlines and apparently feel better.

VWR/ AP springs seem to be the underrated product of the year. Apparently sporting superb handling, and unrivaled comfort. Yet only lower 20mm. But this may be good enough for some.

I'm still in 2 minds over the H&R and the AP/VWR springs. Decisions decisions.

Hope this helps  

[Garth]

Thanks guys.

Right, I'm going to order some AP's tonight then get them fitted early next week hopefully. I'll let you know how they are once on 

[andrewparker]

Thanks guys.

Right, I'm going to order some AP's tonight then get them fitted early next week hopefully. I'll let you know how they are once on 

I'd be interested in knowing how much it costs you to get them fitted mate. I'm in your area and looking at doing exactly the same...

[Gti_Mad]

any1 know the cheapest place 2get the AP or HR springs from please lads

many thanks dawain

[andrewparker]

I've been looking at the H&R 30mm Sport Springs. They're €209 (about £177) from Orange Tuning.

Not sure the 20mm of the APs is enough for me.