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Know anything about TV's (HD)
« on: October 14, 2010, 12:29:17 pm »
can someone please tell me, whats the difference between full HD and 1080p, 1080i
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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2010, 12:31:29 pm »
Full HD is 1080p

1080i/720p is just high definition.

If your getting a tv just make sure its 1080p and you cant go too far wrong. plenty of opinions on brands/costs/quality you could be researching for years  :grin:

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 12:34:25 pm »
Don't wanrt 3d - no enough stuff out for my liking.

Key aspects then for a good TV....

Has to be FULL HD (1080p) 600hz and LED ?

1080i < This is a tv that upscales?
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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 12:35:00 pm »
1080i vs p, many people that looking for a brand new HD TV(High-Definition TV) would be very interesting to know what they mean, which one is better?

Let me explain, 1080 means the video source resolutions is 1920 x 1080(horizontally 1920 pixels, vertically 1080 pixels).

i and p stand for two different scan way.

i is short for Interlaced Scan.

p is short for Progressive Scan.

First of first, I must state 1080i or 1080p property may apply on two things, one is the display equipment like plasma and LCD TV, or the video source like TV broadcast, DVD player, Playstation 3.

Technically 1080p is better than 1080i.

The concept of Interlaced Scan originated from the CRT TV. It displays the 1080i sources line by line in two passes. To be exact, odd numbered line by odd numbered line, then even by even. The scan speed is very quick which is done in less than 0.03 second, due to the image holding effect of human eye, we will still see a integrated image. While progressive scan only needs one pass to display all the lines which result in a sharper image, especially when you watch sport matches, action movie and other fast moving videos. Nowadays all HDTV in the market supports 1080p, actully the plasma TV and LCD TV doesn’t need to scan at all, every pixels on the screen emit lights at the exact same time. With such inherent property, HDTV is able to display 1080p video even the resolution of video source is 1080i by utilizing it’s built-in convey system.

So now we can stop discussing this question on HDTV level, instead we should refer 1080p vs. 1080i to the video source resolution, in other word, it is about what scan mode the HD camcorder use to shoot the video. I should make a note that the HDTV broadcast is using either 1080i or 720p for the sake of saving the bandwidth. Anyway you would watch the genuine 1080p video on Blue Ray DVDs and Playstation3 games, or filmed by an 1080p camcorder.

In conclusion, there is nonsense to compare 1080i and 1080p at display level or compare HDTV based on 1080i and 1080p, because 1080P is a build-in feature for most HDTV now, and you shouldn’t even worry too much about the resolution of video source, HDTV still can display 1080i source with 1080p resolution. So a 1080p vs 1080i comparison can only be made on video source level or a HD camcorder.

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2010, 12:39:43 pm »
you type quick jpc!

LED if you want...but not really, 3D will soon disappear imo.

Plasma above 40" IMO

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2010, 12:44:25 pm »
Very helpfull ppl.

LED & full HD must have some added benifits? otherwise how can they justifiy a 42 inch @£800 or a LED and £2000? is this just a sales/marketing ploy? is the £800 just as good?

Me - Like high quality films!! I want the sharpest of sharp images!!

Much like photo's - is a std 42" better pic than a 52? i.e increase the size loose some res?
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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2010, 12:49:50 pm »
Very helpfull ppl.

LED & full HD must have some added benifits? otherwise how can they justifiy a 42 inch @£800 or a LED and £2000? is this just a sales/marketing ploy? is the £800 just as good?

Me - Like high quality films!! I want the sharpest of sharp images!!

Much like photo's - is a std 42" better pic than a 52? i.e increase the size loose some res?

Depends on the source.

its down to your budget! if you have 2k for a tv i recommend LED.


What is your budget?

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2010, 12:52:55 pm »
budget - £1k

however, from what I understand - so long as it's full HD is the price just a ploy? is a £500 as good as the £2k so long as full HD?

LED - brighter colours?
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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2010, 12:57:19 pm »
its all about the blacks, LED (technically its not LED tv but thats another story) LED can show better blacks, to bridge the gap between plasms and lcd tv.

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 01:05:46 pm »
just asked the people in the know

look at the Panasonic g20 range... apparently and i quote "You'll not see motion like it on any other TV."

These are guys that are paid to know everything there is to know about home cinema, they get given the kit to play with....

i said to him 1k 42 - 50" tv for watching moves.

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2010, 01:09:58 pm »
some of the LED samsungs put other TV's to shame these days.

you only have to walk into currys and see the difference in the blacks. Thats my next telly i think, although i think ive still got a good few years out of my panasonic viera plasma

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2010, 01:16:24 pm »
Cheers ppl. I kow Currys and stuff should help, sometimes depends on the sales guy I think. One by me, sometimes I think he know less than me :(

So, I think my key features are - if you agree....

FULL HD LED 600hz ?

and as per my last question.....does an increase from 42 to 52 loose some pixel within the pic? like stretching a photo?
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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2010, 01:20:18 pm »
Don't wanrt 3d - no enough stuff out for my liking.

Key aspects then for a good TV....

Has to be FULL HD (1080p) 600hz and LED ?

1080i < This is a tv that upscales?

To be honest you really need to look at them and choose which YOU think is the best picture for you.

The debate on Plasma/LED/LCD will go on and on, everyone advising a different one.


At the time i bought a Panasonic 100HZ plasma which knocked the spots of any LCD but I look now and the latest LCD sets look so much better. But saying that I am more than happy with the plasma.


Another thing, dont skimp  on a decent aerial/leads


my two pence worth!!

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2010, 01:26:52 pm »

and as per my last question.....does an increase from 42 to 52 loose some pixel within the pic? like stretching a photo?

If its HD content you wont notice this at all

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Re: Know anything about TV's (HD)
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2010, 01:28:51 pm »

Another thing, dont skimp  on a decent aerial/leads


my two pence worth!!

another long argument, a 1m HDMI cable you wont notice the difference IMO due to it being a digital signal at the end of the day but 1M + long cables i have noticed massive differences between cheap + more expensive cables.