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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2010, 08:43:10 pm »
Thats Nothing!!, go on Superchips own rollers, and their results will blow your Revo claims out the water :chicken:

 :signLOL: :signLOL:

They always seem to have Land of Make Believe playing in the background too  :laugh:

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #91 on: October 25, 2010, 11:32:16 am »
Strange JKM aren't listed as a dealer on the goapr site!!

I was missing some of the dealer information. I have it now and several have been added and updated.


You seem to be still missing some info Arin so will help you out a little, TuningWerkes is now a Revo Dealer, Rubens from TuningWerkes has worked very closely with Awesome for sometime now and will continue to in the future, I wish them all the best in their New venture too.

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2010, 12:06:00 pm »
I know business is business but I find all this rubbishing of APR products in public by Awesome a little tiresome and somewhat childish.  Awesome have been in business for a long time, supported and stood by APR products for a long time and have a good reputation as do REVO and they don't need to resort to such gutter level tactics IMHO.

REVO is a good product, as is APR and I think each has it's own place in the market.  I don't see Awesome starting to post up graphs of REVO vs companies such as Celtic Tuning or Custom Code.

Perhaps many people have forgotten this -

http://www.goapr.com/revo/
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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2010, 12:17:09 pm »
LOL, not seen that for years.

What ever came of that lawsuit again???
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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2010, 12:19:14 pm »
Stu,

At no piont have we rubbished APR. All we have posted is Facts.
And no, you won't see us comparing, Celtic tuning, Superchips etc as we have never dealt with them.
We are just showing the differences between the 2 companies we have used.
If you don't want to see it, then don't read it!

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #95 on: October 25, 2010, 12:19:26 pm »
rubbishing of APR products in public by Awesome.........   ? Forums are apparently a place for information for you as the customer to decide, so only now when we have the opportunity to bring comparable data its classed as rubbishing ???

As i said in an earlier post the customers with the product will speak for themselves, all we are doing is giving you the customer the info while we have the chance of back to back testing
« Last Edit: October 25, 2010, 12:22:04 pm by Awesomemark »

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #96 on: October 25, 2010, 12:19:59 pm »
Nom nom nom


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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #97 on: October 25, 2010, 12:24:13 pm »
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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #98 on: October 25, 2010, 12:28:40 pm »
LOL, not seen that for years.

What ever came of that lawsuit again???

Revo settled out of court from memory. APR used the money to buy Oettinger

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #99 on: October 25, 2010, 01:00:06 pm »


Thats Nothing!!, go on Superchips own rollers, and their results will blow your Revo claims out the water :chicken:
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Well I have superchips stage 2+ software, HPFP, ITG and miltek TBE on my k03 engine and it made 275BHP and 315 lbft (90k miles)on totally independant rollers, PSI tuning, who sell a different software manufacturer and had every incentive to rubbish SC but were dead impressed by the figures, so the revo figures look about right to my untrained eyes given the ability to fine tune, but given the SC was only a £50 upgrade for me and v close to the revo figure, then no contest - £50 versus £500 to get a few lbft and a few bhp.

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #100 on: October 25, 2010, 01:19:25 pm »

I know business is business but I find all this rubbishing of APR products in public by Awesome a little tiresome and somewhat childish.  Awesome have been in business for a long time, supported and stood by APR products for a long time and have a good reputation as do REVO and they don't need to resort to such gutter level tactics IMHO.

REVO is a good product, as is APR and I think each has it's own place in the market.  I don't see Awesome starting to post up graphs of REVO vs companies such as Celtic Tuning or Custom Code.

Perhaps many people have forgotten this -

http://www.goapr.com/revo/

....I don't see any "rubbishing" of APR going on in this thread at all, Stu. The posting of information is of course presented to fly the flag of whichever tuner posts it but, unless I've missed it, there has been no rubbishing or slanging or derogatory comments about the competitor.

Whichever tuner or retailer we each favour, this thread has been particularly well behaved in its contributions I'm glad to say.  :happy2:


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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #101 on: October 25, 2010, 01:34:02 pm »
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Perhaps many people have forgotten this -

http://www.goapr.com/revo/

there is a reason that many people have forgotten the lawsuit, it happened over 7 years ago and nobody was found guilty. It is not the most exciting court case to ever have happened

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #102 on: October 25, 2010, 03:43:55 pm »


Well I have superchips stage 2+ software, HPFP, ITG and miltek TBE on my k03 engine and it made 275BHP and 315 lbft (90k miles)on totally independant rollers, PSI tuning, who sell a different software manufacturer and had every incentive to rubbish SC but were dead impressed by the figures, so the revo figures look about right to my untrained eyes given the ability to fine tune, but given the SC was only a £50 upgrade for me and v close to the revo figure, then no contest - £50 versus £500 to get a few lbft and a few bhp.

Totally agree :happy2:
« Last Edit: October 25, 2010, 03:45:41 pm by Saint Steve »

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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #103 on: October 25, 2010, 05:00:36 pm »
 
Stu,

At no piont have we rubbished APR. All we have posted is Facts.
And no, you won't see us comparing, Celtic tuning, Superchips etc as we have never dealt with them.
We are just showing the differences between the 2 companies we have used.
If you don't want to see it, then don't read it!

Dean

Dean

Perhaps rubbish is too stronger word in this case but it seems to me the Awesome and REVO have gone all out to make a big impact in the market.

Posts like this - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,20676.msg283148.html#msg283148

REVO yet again ROCK ROCK Rockin the socks of APR

and the various Facebook comments and postings in the REVO group of the same plots which were obviously carried out on the Dyno at Awesome seem to me to be taking cheap shots at APR with an undertone of bitterness thrown in for good measure.  What's done is done, Awesome are no longer APR dealers and are now REVO dealers enough said.

Ok, this might not be the case in your eyes but as a potential customer that's how it looks to me.  Awesome have always appeared to be a professional outfit and I don't think public 'tit for tat' or 'this is better than that' is representative of the professionalism that I thought Awesome thrived on.

Don't get me wrong, I have spent a serious amount of money on Software from REVO over many years and I like the product, in fact I would go so far as to say it is the best 2.0 TFSi product on the market, for my needs.  If someone came to me today and said I want some new software for my GTi then my answer would likely be REVO although the recent price reduction by APR does now warrant some consideration if you don't want the flexibility REVO offers.  FWIW I have carried a REVO banner add on one of my websites for well over a year, Free of Charge, so my argument here is not against REVO or indeed APR.

I think the point that Arin makes is valid, people shouldn't get hung up on the numbers and not everyone wants to push their car to the extreme limit and in that instance APR would appear to offer a suitable and proven product - one which until recently Awesome would have argued was the best on the market. This is probably borne out by your previous customers who all claim to be satisfied with their software.

I won't get drawn into the Dyno vs Facts arguments and would reserve judgement on the exact increase until I saw it independently tested.  Suffice to say I have previously been involved with REVO over some period of time in trying to ascertain true figures vs advertised figures and it's always going to be a contentious issue.



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Re: The big switch over. APR to REVO
« Reply #104 on: October 25, 2010, 05:41:11 pm »
Stu

Perhaps you should come in and have a chat directly with me then this way you may have a clearer picture or perhaps a personal phonecall between ourselves would suit, phone me at the office or if you want i will give you my personal mobile number via pm if you like.

I think then you will have a clearer and more precise idea of the situation.

Thanks in advance

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