The big switch over. APR to REVO

[Saint Steve]

Well said Stu 

[Janner_Sy]

+1 stu. 

Anyway ive heqard that custom code software is awesome

[vRS Carl]

I've just found Custom Code's mapping 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/realpropercustard_65614

[vRStu]

Stu

Perhaps you should come in and have a chat directly with me then this way you may have a clearer picture or perhaps a personal phonecall between ourselves would suit, phone me at the office or if you want i will give you my personal mobile number via pm if you like.

I think then you will have a clearer and more precise idea of the situation.

Thanks in advance

Regards
Mark

PM sent Mark 

[Arin@APR]

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Perhaps many people have forgotten this -

http://www.goapr.com/revo/

there is a reason that many people have forgotten the lawsuit, it happened over 7 years ago and nobody was found guilty. It is not the most exciting court case to ever have happened

I'm not at liberty to discuss the settlement but if people believe both parties walked away w/o any form of compensation, you are very mistaken.

I think the point that Arin makes is valid, people shouldn't get hung up on the numbers and not everyone wants to push their car to the extreme limit and in that instance APR would appear to offer a suitable and proven product - one which until recently Awesome would have argued was the best on the market. This is probably borne out by your previous customers who all claim to be satisfied with their software.

Thank you Stu.

A dyno plot is only 1 run showing the results of one run in one condition compared to another. There is no other data attached. We don't know what EGT's looked like and we don't know how hard the car was run. We don't know if the revo settings were set to "max" for the dyno, and then dialed back to a safe level for the street. Heck in some of the cases we don't even know if the software was production software or a "Kill Them All!" dyno assassination file seeing as it's not even for sale.

Making power is easy. It's actually really easy! It's often the easiest part once you've figured everything out. Doing it safely is something else. What we have chosen to sell to customers is what we feel is safe and reliable. We believe it makes the advertised power on the road. We have hundreds of thousands of customers using our software around the country and a overwhelming amount are satisfied with their purchase.

 

[awesome_dean]

Stu,

I do take all your points on board and do so with respect.
I'll let you have a chat with mark first and we can chat afterwards openly.

Arin, please don't see this as any kind of attack on APR, it is not. we have always had and still do have great respect for APR.
Its just that our business ideals did not meet.
The dyno results you see are exactly what the cars are going out on the road with and not running at max levels.
These are backed off figures. We could push them more.
They were all logged for EGT, AFR, boost, timing etc during the set up.
If you are suggesting we are modifying the settings to give higher readings for advertising purposes, you are sorely mistaken!
These are fantastic figures, which we are very happy with. And so are our customers. which, at the end of the day, are the most important judges.

Regards,
Dean

[awesome_dean]

PS

If anyone who would like their REVO software setup on the rollers (regardless of whether you had the remap done by us or not),
Then you are more than welcome to watch as we does this to make sure we don't back it off after we have run it.
We will do this at the cost of a rolling road run.

£55 + vat (2wd)
£65 + vat (4WD)

Best wishes,
Dean

[Awesomemark]

Dean

just ask Uk dub the car was done with him sitting in it and he controlled what he wanted

[awesome_dean]

Will do, cheers Mark.

[ukdub]

Dean

just ask Uk dub the car was done with him sitting in it and he controlled what he wanted

I sure was, check out post 48.  :driver:Plus I am sure if I have any concerns, they will log my car out on the road as well.

[Janner_Sy]

we need an independant dyno i think.  A nice dyno dynamics RR should do the trick.  Any DD  rollers in manchester? 

[awesome_dean]

Cheers for the reply Steve.

Sounds like a plan Sy!

[ukdub]

we need an independant dyno i think.  A nice dyno dynamics RR should do the trick.  Any DD  rollers in manchester? 

Not sure on that one, would be good though. With my results, I can't tell you if the final figures are accurate. What I can tell you that with the new software and with adjusting the settings, I made an extra 18bhp and 27lbft of torque. Not sure if that will be the same now because of the adaption.

[Janner_Sy]

what about RS tuning in leeds, the drive over should help that adaption

[ukdub]

what about RS tuning in leeds, the drive over should help that adaption

Might have adapted the other way  Will have to sort out a RR day in Leeds. It's not that far. If I remember correctly, BenR is from that neck of the woods as well.