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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2010, 11:27:55 am »

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2010, 11:30:49 am »
thanks!  :happy2:

So makes sense to buy the walk with the bushes then?

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2010, 11:31:50 am »
Sorry,

Poly is the material, WALK is a brand (Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit)

You want:

Superpro front arm control bush ref: SPF3346K
Superpro rear arm control bush with anti-lift ref: SPF3273K

Anti lift basically means an increase in static caster, which generates dynamic camber. It forces the inside wheel down to retain traction and cambers the outside to increase tyre footprint. In tandem with your diff and decent geo, it'll feel a million times better if you add these. I was one of the first to use the more expensive Whiteline version* years back and it's very impressive.

The only difference is Whiteline supply their own metal mount, you press the Superpro one into the OEM one instead.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2010, 11:49:16 am by tony_danza »
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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #63 on: December 24, 2010, 11:33:43 am »

Robin, the WALK cured it. Trust me, I did mine in stages.

All the other mods purely serve to aid traction, so the threshold being moved gives the impression they've improved the problem. The lower mount reduces the movement of the lump, so it doesn't accentuate the hop with it adding it's own bang. 2 different issues there working together.


....That's good to know about the WALK's  :happy2: I should read john_o's excellent review more carefully.

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #64 on: December 24, 2010, 11:36:22 am »
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Not necessary as tony_d pointed out earlier, but you may as well replace the poly bushes on the opposite end of the WALK's on the wishbones while there - It should theoretically better balance the bush stresses across the wishbone.



^ The poly bush I refer to is the purple one.

« Last Edit: December 24, 2010, 11:44:59 am by RedRobin »


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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #65 on: December 24, 2010, 11:37:42 am »
The walk really does increase traction by quite a margin... well worth it!

Robin.. i thought as a die hard modder you'd have the WALK kit on!  :wink:

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #66 on: December 24, 2010, 11:47:49 am »
He does have walk fitted

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #67 on: December 24, 2010, 11:53:04 am »
This is how the Superpro one looks, see how it is offset to change the wishbone's angle?

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #68 on: December 24, 2010, 12:05:22 pm »
I think your going about this all wrong, Your just adding loads of expensive part's trying to cure a fault. I personally would first off swap my front tyres for the back ones, just to see if this cures it. This will discount the tyres from being the problem. Then i would take it to a different reputable garage and get them to go over all your bolts and suspension connection's to see if something is a-miss. VWR are great but they quite often make mistakes.
Then if all check's out ok you need to start looking at wheel alignment and such like. There is obviously a fault  on something as you should not be getting excessive wheel hop, some perhaps occasionally but not all the time.
I am no mechanic, but it's common sense to trace and fix a fault before just buying bits hoping to cure it.  :santa:

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #69 on: December 24, 2010, 12:43:33 pm »
This. ^

Check. If all ok, do what you should have done first of all and do the bushes & geo.

Bad form on being relieved of a £monkey+ for something you didn't need.
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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #70 on: December 27, 2010, 12:55:19 pm »
Are you sure this problem is this VWR LSD u have installed Steve?? 1st thing I would question, especially as vwr and their spanners have anything to do with it.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 01:02:01 pm by Saint Steve »

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #71 on: December 27, 2010, 01:02:27 pm »
I asked th to check it out when it went it. That was the point of my visit. Although don't know if they did. Just said it was all fine

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2010, 01:25:32 pm »
I'd go independent for their advice personally, try a local performance car specialist to you mate and get a non biased opinion.

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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2010, 07:50:14 pm »
what are your front tyre make/pressures Steve?
maybe also worth having another forum member jump in the car to confirm its wheel hop.

with mounts fitted it should just spin freely without any greate 'hop'
would disagree with tony_d on the engine mounts, but he is the WALK/suspension expert  :happy2:

still think you have something loose/worn tbh
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Re: Wheel hop crazy - front left
« Reply #74 on: December 28, 2010, 07:57:23 pm »
seems like two opinions here. some saying the mounts will fix and some saying they wont..

The hop is there and with REVO on is clear.

I have just met a guy who works in a tuning garage, power engineering in uxbridge. so ill try see if he can do me a "favour" and check it out.. hopefully he'll have an alignment machine too.

cant remember on presure, ill need to check them.

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