Does my CAN gateway need upgrading?

[ILoveTuna]

Hi,

I have obtained myself an RNS 510 C version and have decided to try to install it myself!! Which will be a challenge for me but i decided it was time i learnt!! 

So have have managed to connect and use VCDS which is a good start these are the details for my CAN gateway..

Do i need to upgrade this to use my RNS 510 without battery drain issue?


Address 19: CAN Gateway
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 530 F
  Component and/or Version: Gateway         H10 0120
           Software Coding: 7F3F0740070003
            Work Shop Code: WSC 01279

Advanced Identification
     Serial number: 28001055210A54
     Identification: TFJ-ING
     Revision:   H10   
     Date: 21.05.05
     Manufacturer number: 0A54
     Test stand number: 1102
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts: 0
     Successful Attempts: 0
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Required Conditions: 00000000
     Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
     Flash Date: --.--.--
Software
     K2.9.9
     D2.9.9
     I2.8.9
     A4.8.6
     XPQ35_V21_02
Misc.
     Hardware number: 1K0 907 951

[Degudodger]

Hiya ILT,

Yep looks like you will need to replace your Can Gateway. From what i understand anything pre Revision L will cause the battery drain of death if left for more than 36-48 hours.

[vRS Carl]

If you want to use un modified firmware then yes you will need to as anything below K revision will suffer battery drain.

However you can save yourself £85 and just use a modified firmware that stops the Drain

[ILoveTuna]

Ok where can i obtain the modified firmware? 

[vRS Carl]

I need to know what firmware you are running on it at the moment.

No point linking you to an older firmware than you already got 

[stealthwolf]

Depends on who you've bought the unit from.

Installing the rns510 is theoretically easy. The hard bit is pulling the dash apart with enough force to separate everything but not so much that you break things. I found trim removal tools helpful in this respect. 

If someone's already upgraded the firmware, then you'll need to ensure that the secret menu is enabled. In this menu is the option to downgrade firmware.

[vRS_Pagey]

I need to know what firmware you are running on it at the moment.

No point linking you to an older firmware than you already got 

Tell me more about the firmware, checked my gateway last night, it's a revision 'H' so will need upgrading unless theres another way?!

[ILoveTuna]

Do i need to power the unit up to find out the firmware or is it printed on the unit?

Also can anyone recommend some decent trim removal tools?

Thanks for the help guys...

[loser40]

Hi...

Ive read this thread with much interest.

Just had an RNS 510 (I think its a B version) fitted into my Golf GTD 140 DSG, '06, but an '07 model.

All works well except the battery drain issue.  I remove a fuse to stop this.

Does anyone know if changing the firmware will cure the problem ?

If it does, which version of firmware I should install ?

Ive read conflicting posts on other sites/threads as to which firmware version fixes battery drain on B version RNS 510's.

Id rather not have to spend cash on a CAN bus gateway. 


VRS CARL "If you want to use un modified firmware then yes you will need to as anything below K revision will suffer battery drain.

However you can save yourself £85 and just use a modified firmware that stops the Drain."

Can you let me know where I can download modified firmware from please Carl ?  I bought mine from Darren, AKA mortygttdi.


All advice/links welcome :)

TIA,

Mark.

[vRS Carl]

Sorry for the late reply.

This is the firmware link that is modified to stop battery drain

2720 No battery Drain

I have no experience of this firmware personally but know of people who are running it and have no problems. What has been done is the VUCI file from firmware 1200 (the last before Battery drain problems arose) and has replaced the one from 2720. I can't guarantee it solves the problem but for a lot of people apparently it has. If it doesn't you haven't lost anything and if it does then bonus 

[loser40]

Sorry for the late reply.

This is the firmware link that is modified to stop battery drain

2720 No battery Drain

I have no experience of this firmware personally but know of people who are running it and have no problems. What has been done is the VUCI file from firmware 1200 (the last before Battery drain problems arose) and has replaced the one from 2720. I can't guarantee it solves the problem but for a lot of people apparently it has. If it doesn't you haven't lost anything and if it does then bonus  

Hi Carl...

Thanks for your quick reply.

I'll try the modified firmware and see it it works.

BTW, should I burn this to a CD or DVD ...?

.... and, I assume I will need to reload the navigation maps ?  Any idea where I can get those ?

Thanks again,

Mark :)

[vRS Carl]

Burn the image to CD

No you shouldn't need to reload maps as it is not a factory firmware. Once you have burnt the disc follow this process to upgrade:

1. DO NOT PUT KEY IN IGNITION

2. Power up the RNS-510 without key in ignition then eject any CD or DVD in the RNS-510 insert your Firmware CD

3. Unit will restart and after a couple of minutes it will ask you to press OK then wait a couple more minutes and you will get another OK to press.

4. Leave the update to run for 50 minutes and once it’s done eject the CD and restart the unit by pressing <, > and i

HTH

Carl

[loser40]

Burn the image to CD

No you shouldn't need to reload maps as it is not a factory firmware. Once you have burnt the disc follow this process to upgrade:

1. DO NOT PUT KEY IN IGNITION

2. Power up the RNS-510 without key in ignition then eject any CD or DVD in the RNS-510 insert your Firmware CD

3. Unit will restart and after a couple of minutes it will ask you to press OK then wait a couple more minutes and you will get another OK to press.

4. Leave the update to run for 50 minutes and once it’s done eject the CD and restart the unit by pressing <, > and i

HTH

Carl

Hello Carl,

Do I press "<, > and i " all at the same time, or in sequence ?

I owe you a beer :)

Mark.

[vRS Carl]

Hi Mark

Yes press them all at the same time and hold them in till you see the VW splash screen.

I'll take a diet coke as i don't drink

[stealthwolf]

Do I press "<, > and i " all at the same time, or in sequence ?

It's the RNS' version of Ctrl-Alt-Del, so all three at once. Doesn't matter if you hold the left two buttons with your left hand while you reach for the right hand button with your right hand!