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Which remap has been the best overall for you?

Custom Code
5 (9.6%)
Amp
0 (0%)
Revo
25 (48.1%)
Bluefin
16 (30.8%)
other (please state)
6 (11.5%)

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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2009, 02:02:56 pm »
Agree.  My only concern is that depending on where you go a remap can cost anything from £199 to £500.

As there is no real skill required, apart from an investment in the equipment - I think a remap should ideally be at the £200 mark and no more.
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2009, 02:05:32 pm »
i'd love a £200 remap, although i feel they are few and far between now.

how much are stage 1 revo currently?
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2009, 02:13:16 pm »
Quote from: broke. on February 23, 2009, 02:05:32 pm
i'd love a £200 remap, although i feel they are few and far between now.

how much are stage 1 revo currently?

I think with the Revo 20 % off you are looking at £470.
You can still get remaps for around 200, but you would be mad IMHO. the GTI is a 20,000 grand car, i would only go with a map that has a proven record. All maps will make it go faster its up to you if you want to trust such an expensive car to still be performing a few years down the line.
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2009, 02:36:08 pm »
this thread disturbs me  :sad:

Guys/Gals  this isnt the ECU on Stephensons 'Rocket' , its a very complex and intricate piece of electronics.
The map is derived from thousands of hours of multi environment testing.
The number of changeable factors and their subsequent influence on others variables is more than tricky!
There are also numerous factors that the end user may decide influence the choice of buying.

Do your research, put the factors in order of priority for YOU, then go with that tuner.
Be careful to not follow the mistakes of others, or necessarily take forum facts as 'facts'

For me it was APR or REVO , I chose APR. But I'm sure Id be happy with REVO too.

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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2009, 03:02:19 pm »
Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 02:02:56 pm

As there is no real skill required, apart from an investment in the equipment - I think a remap should ideally be at the £200 mark and no more.
 

...."No real skill"!? :surprised: [we need a :shock: smilie] - I don't agree with you on this one, Mo.

Read what john_o has posted.
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2009, 03:10:30 pm »
I'd be intrigued to understand what in particular is better about the APR and REVO maps, say, in comparison to Bluefin or SuperChips? Please elaborate...
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2009, 03:43:33 pm »
The Bluefin (product) is marketed/developed by Superchips (company) so thats the same thing.
'better' is in the eye of the beholder. I would suggest a few 'parameters'

customer base (size)
customer feedback
type of customer profile
distance from you
cost
development time and resource to produce product
updates
VW specific or other makes too?
time in business
dyno plots (both from company and from forums , they differ greatly). shape is as if not more important then ultimate numbers
AirFuelRatio data, EGR temp data etc
ability and type of switching , stock vs mapped mode
adjustable (only REVO can do this)

to name but a few.  :happy2:

[edit: just like to add , Im no expert, just trying to provide an unbiased opinion to allow you to choose for yourself  :smiley:]


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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2009, 04:08:16 pm »
Does anyone have a dyno graph for REVO or APR to share?  I'd be interested to compare this with mine.
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2009, 04:16:58 pm »
Revo Stage 1 with Milltek (can't find one with just Stage 1 map, but you get the idea)..



Apr Stage 1

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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2009, 04:52:57 pm »
Thanks for this VTEC buster.

Those figures look very impressive.  Are those bhp/torque figures taken at the wheels on the dyno and are they for a GTi or ED30?

I've just had mine remaped... profiles attached - nothing as impressive as yours... 

<How do I insert my image here>  :signIWS:

Do u think if I went for the Milltek I would be able to get similar figures? Would I need to get the car put back on the dyno for remapping?


P.S. Was that a turbo-back or cat-back exhaust?
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2009, 05:45:50 pm »


Just to add Apr can be adjusted know as well
http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/vtune.html
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2009, 05:55:34 pm »
Quote from: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 02:02:56 pm
As there is no real skill required, apart from an investment in the equipment - I think a remap should ideally be at the £200 mark and no more.

Would you like to elaborate on this a little? Never heard anything so ridiculous!?

I take it you would be able to crack an MED9 ECU in your sleep then?
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2009, 06:17:49 pm »
Quote from: jonnyc on February 23, 2009, 05:55:34 pm
I take it you would be able to crack an MED9 ECU in your sleep then?

He rattles off complicated algorithms on his lunch break, I heard.

I remember Darran, Ex VW Racing employee, giving me a run down on what was involved with writing a map, it takes real skill and intelligence, so its no real wonder the prices they charge. 
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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2009, 07:52:54 pm »
yin : Im pretty sure the vtune is not available for the mk5  :sad:

mojo : this was my APR stg1 recently on 99RON




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Re: Remap Poll
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2009, 07:57:05 pm »
Quote from: john_o on February 23, 2009, 07:52:54 pm
yin : Im pretty sure the vtune is not available for the mk5  :sad:




A little birdie tells me V Tune for TFSI  is out very soon :happy2:
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