New MOT Regs from December 2011

[Andy]

NEW MOT REGS

[RobH]

Chipped ECU's rofl good luck with that one

[Poverty]

 

If insurance companies cant easily do it, vosa stand no chance! 

Who would have thought that the government would attack a multi million industry like that 

[stealthwolf]

I skim-read the motester link. Nothing about remaps.

[Hurdy]

So in THEORY no insurance company would LEGALLY be able to insure a remapped car OVER THREE YEARS OLD.  LEGALLY cars under 3yrs old do not have to pass an MOT so would they slip through the legal loophole?

[RedRobin]

Chipped ECU's rofl good luck with that one

....If you have Revo, I wonder if switching back to what's called "stock" map will get through MOT.

If they use the term "chipped" don't they mean ECU hardware modifications not software?

[Hurdy]

Chipped ECU's rofl good luck with that one

....If you have Revo, I wonder if switching back to what's called "stock" map will get through MOT.

If they use the term "chipped" don't they mean ECU hardware modifications not software?

It would be a good argument to have in a test case, but I wouldn't want to be the one in the test case. Surely this smacks of Brussels intervention? After all some countries on the continent aren't allowed to remap.....so they must be thinking why should we

[QD MBE]

I think VOSA (Government) will have something up their sleeve being developed in the background to achieve this, be that forcing mainstream companies to give up Customer Databases, or impounding suspect cars and forcing you to prove via RR tests, they will be able to have an fair accurate educated guess, brakes, susp, Intakes, exhausts , even go-faster stickers plastered all over the engine etc. 

Then it will be up to you to prove a lack of mapping.

I wouldn't be overly concerned though, lots of friendly MOT testers.

[182_blue]

WOW, what a strange thing to pick on (remaps) , well at least i have more than 2.5 years with my map till MOT time !!!

[Nasir]

Remaps aren't illegal are they? If your insurance company, what's the problem? (co2?)

[RedRobin]

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Certainly if the powers that be really put their minds to it there ain't no hiding place and a remapped ECU will be discovered. However, what's the detail and the spirit (intention) of this latest rule? If it's to stop the performance modification of vehicles then why does it stop at remapping?

The other thing that needs clarifying is precisely what the authority means by the term "chipped" - Normally that means hardware (as I said earlier) and that isn't considered to be a good practice any longer AFAIK.

Quite irrational I know, but my gut feeling is that at this time at least, it's not their intention to act such that a whole multi million pound tuning industry joins the dinosaurs. On the other hand these wallies aren't up to speed anyway and are quite capable of making a balls up.

[scotta]

hmmm interesting.

They surely cant get away with doing that and in effect make redundant hundreds of jobs in the tuning market and the additional knock on effect it will have to motorsport. 

We await and see.

[RedRobin]

NEW MOT REGS

....Andy, this links to a car salvage web site (and they can't even spell "Repairers"!!) - It's hardly a reliable source of accurate information.

Checking on a MOT web site I so far haven't found any reference to ECU testing whatsoever, I'm very glad to say. Also, my insurer Greenlight who specialise in and welcome modified cars currently know nothing either and are now looking into it.

I've just spoken to Revo and they are aware of this but are confident that any ruling, if it exists, is only designed to stop the 'cheap and nasty' amateur tuners (not their words) from interfering with MAF and emission sensors etc. Also, they expect that switching a Revo map to 'stock' would be effective in not raising any alarm bells.

So, let's see published detailed information from a valid source before we jump to any conclusions or start panicking.

[cmdrfire]

There was some fuss last year IIRC about "OMGWTFBBQ THEY WON'T ALLOW ENGINE SWAPS NO MORE".

Let's look at the source people. "wrecks2riches.co.uk".

The only one that sounds halfway reasonable is the airbag warning light one, but even then, some road-legal machines which have an aftermarket steering wheel or a seat removed can have the airbag warning on and still be road-worthy.

Reckon it's all a load of nonsense tbh.


(Note: just read the article that the site links to on motester.co.uk - it mentions NONE of the things that the wrecks2riches site mentions.)


/cue much arm-waving, wailing, flailing, and gnashing of teeth...

[RedRobin]

The only one that sounds halfway reasonable is the airbag warning light one, but even then, some road-legal machines which have an aftermarket steering wheel or a seat removed can have the airbag warning on and still be road-worthy.

....And I am living proof that an airbag light displaying on initial systems check only, because of Recaro airbag-less front seats, will pass MOT.