18" fitment issues

[savechip17]

well i just got some devil rivieras 18", fitted them to my golf (tdisport) at the weekend and crashed it last night as the front right wheel came off. all the nuts had just fallen out. and i know i put them in good.

just wondering if i needed something else as ther are 18s and i has normal 17" estorils on b4 hand.

any help would be really appreciated as i checked the other wheels and they were coming loose too.

[jonnyc]

well i just got some devil rivieras 18", fitted them to my golf (tdisport) at the weekend and crashed it last night as the front right wheel came off. all the nuts had just fallen out. and i know i put them in good.

just wondering if i needed something else as ther are 18s and i has normal 17" estorils on b4 hand.

any help would be really appreciated as i checked the other wheels and they were coming loose too.

Probably put the wrong bolts in, if you used the OEM bolts on aftermarket wheels thats your problem..

OEM wheels are all conical seat bolts and aftermarket wheels have a taper seat.. Conical seat bolts in an aftermarket wheel will tighten up and then fall out as soon as you drive it..

Good job no one got hurt!

[VC]

what he said /\

also the bolts might need to be longer too depending on the alloy

[savechip17]

mite sound like a stupid question but where can i get these special bolts from. im a bit of a beginner so if you have a link to some that would be great.  also how could i tell if i needed longer bolts?

thanks again for above advice jc and vc -

[vwrascal]

sorry to hear about your crash     do much damage?

[jonnyc]

mite sound like a stupid question but where can i get these special bolts from. im a bit of a beginner so if you have a link to some that would be great.  also how could i tell if i needed longer bolts?

thanks again for above advice jc and vc -

Any wheel place will be able to provide you wheel bolts.. The wheels should have came with the bolts anyways..

Measure how much of the bolt length is protruding from the back of the standard wheel with the standard bolts and then you can measure the depth of the hub mounting part of the aftermarket wheel and figure out the bolt length required..

Generally you will need the following..

M14 x 1.5
17mm Hex
30mm length

Jonny

[savechip17]

yeah it could have been alot worse. the alloys buggered as it was rolling aroung with no bolts in. im taking it to a garage to have a look at the brakes and the bit there attatched to it on the one that fell off. hopefully i wont have nacked the thread.

[savechip17]

jc,  just as im not getting things wrong. literally just measure the depth of the hole on the car (hub) and then the width the bolt goes through on the wheel. and voila?

[jonnyc]

jc,  just as im not getting things wrong. literally just measure the depth of the hole on the car (hub) and then the width the bolt goes through on the wheel. and voila?

No..

Get your standard wheel and put a bolt in one of the bolt holes and measure how much of the bolt would enter the hub. Thats the measurement that your new bolts on your new wheels needs to sit into your hub also..

So now measure from the face of the wheel (that would sit up against the hub) to the very bottom of the bolt seat.. Add those two figures together and then thats how long your bolts need to be..

Its probably going to be pretty much 30mm as I said.. But good to check.

[savechip17]

thanks mate, ill check that out now.  Im gona have a ring aroung a few places to see if i can get a new alloy and avon too so ill ask them for the bolts tomorrow. do safety wheel lock bolts still do the trick. where the bold head is different? obviously when i get these buggers back on i dont want them being pinched lol

[jonnyc]

thanks mate, ill check that out now.  Im gona have a ring aroung a few places to see if i can get a new alloy and avon too so ill ask them for the bolts tomorrow. do safety wheel lock bolts still do the trick. where the bold head is different? obviously when i get these buggers back on i dont want them being pinched lol

Nope, you will need taper seat locking wheel nuts too..

[matt a]

Sorry to hear about this. Did you not get bolts with the wheels?

[savechip17]

common - (shane) from mkvgolf had some as the supplier sent him an extra set so no bolts.
im trawling through some webpages to see if i can find some but havent a clue, jcs been a good help tho.
Matt -you manage to get all your kit sold?

[savechip17]

Just been on revolution looking for the bolts and they say i may need SPIGOT RINGS, i think i may need these is this true?

[Top Cat]

Just been on revolution looking for the bolts and they say i may need SPIGOT RINGS, i think i may need these is this true?

Give the wheelman a PM he will sort you out he does this for a living.