Depreciation, here we come!!! - Mines A Green one please...

[tony_danza]

I think my suggestion about them being coy may well have some truth in it.. They seem to be not saying much and waiting for all the Journos to talk it up.

Nice marketing ploy. Understate a very anticipated car, hand the keys over to a few important players and let them do the selling for you... it'll become a legend before one even appears on the road.

I can't wait for a go in one.

[jonnyc]

I'm looking at the RS as a blank canvas, its pulling those figures as standard, £500 on a remap alone should see a marked improvement, and although Johnnys car is an exception, I'd imagine the majority of modded ed30s would struggle with the RS as standard never mind with a remap.

  look at me defending the car ive only got a deposit on.......

Thats what im really looking forward to seeing, how much can be had out of the standard engine / turbo with bolt on parts and re-maps etc etc.. If its 370+ then its going to be an attractive prospect..

[DavyP]

In one of the vids in this thread the lead designer was suggesting that the car is certainly capable of handling more than 300bhp so it is as you've said going to be interesting to see what the tuners come up with.


Ford havent really confirmed the 0-60 time as fact so perhaps it is some kind of ploy, worked on me

[tony_danza]

I've just been having a sniff about and can't find much about the "bling" I can see it has uprated brakes over the ST, but what - Brembos like the MKI RS? etc etc..

Is there somewhere linked with all the spec & details?

[DavyP]

http://www.ford.co.uk/cs/ContentServer?cid=1204917964442&pagename=UKEN_ENGInE%2FLayout4&c=Page

link for e brochure..

[john_o]

as I said in another thread the 0-60 doesnt match the power/torque output and any reasonable weight, so it points to a reduced output in lower gears (or a high 1st gear?)
RS std like you say has potential
modded ED30 is flawed unless you get ALL the areas of deficiency sorted (suspension/LSD/brakes)
whether the RS has much 'headroom' who knows as yet 
At the mo I like it, but id prefer jonnyc's   

[RedRobin]

modded ED30 is flawed unless you get ALL the areas of deficiency sorted (suspension/LSD/brakes)

....Seems very much that way to me too

Naturally, I'm interested/pleased to see they have chosen a Quaife mechanical diff for the RS rather than electronic like the forthcoming Mk6 GTI.

[john_o]

flawed but still awesome RR 

That RS runs on 95 RON ! how did they manage that? 2.5l lower compression I guess? It states that the fuel consumption is taken on 95RON. dunno about the output figures BUT usually you get better mpg on 98+ ?

ED30 maps will run on 95RON but its not recommended and it certainly reduces output considerably.

btw 440 Nm = 325 lbs/ft in old money. Def need to see a power plot for this baby

Blue one for me

[tony_danza]

Weighs in at 1467kg according to the 'net. A guide at best.

Also, has 336 vented fronts on a single piston caliper - the MKI had 325mm 4-pot Brembos. They've skimped a bit here and with 35% more power and ??kg more weight than the MKI, have they given it a weak link?...

Annoyingly though, it's the only thing I can pull it up on that isn't subjective/cosmetics.

[Phil Mcavity]

it sounds like the car suffers with bad turbo lag, but the journo's have said it helps putting the power down!. WTF!!. drinks like a fish by the sounds of it. 15mpg sounds like a good town mpg, if the old ST  was getting 18-20.

[RedRobin]

it sounds like the car suffers with bad turbo lag, but the journo's have said it helps putting the power down!. WTF!!

....Do any modern cars still suffer from turbo lag nowadays??

I think Plato was saying that the lag gave a welcome opportunity in exiting corners - I don't quite understand that unless you mash the throttle and keep it mashed down.

[DavyP]

Anyone else on here ordered one of these yet????

They seem to be selling well, Ive even heard of people profiting from selling their order on.

I won't be selling mine, Frozen White, Lux Pack and Bluetooth.  Reviews have been fantastic and the demand bodes well for future values.

I'm excited.

[john_o]

one of the mags stated that the full beans ARE limited in first gear 
If I had the cash Id be jumping 

[Phil Mcavity]

one of the mags stated that the full beans ARE limited in first gear 
If I had the cash Id be jumping 

and it still suffers with torque steer.

[joesgti]

one of the mags stated that the full beans ARE limited in first gear 
If I had the cash Id be jumping 

and it still suffers with torque steer.

so do most powerful fwd cars.