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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #180 on: August 16, 2011, 06:08:41 pm »

All you need to do now Rich is cover your car in grease and never use your aircon and it'll be super efficient  :laugh:
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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #181 on: August 16, 2011, 06:10:27 pm »

All you need to do now Rich is cover your car in grease and never use your aircon and it'll be super efficient  :laugh:
  :ashamed: Mines already done :grin:. Theres around 10 Ltrs of waxoyl under mine. :ashamed:

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #182 on: August 16, 2011, 06:13:15 pm »
Mine rare gets used from November till March. The winter cheap runabout comes out then.
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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #183 on: August 16, 2011, 07:24:51 pm »
Guess the Golf Variant has the same tube routing as the Skoda Octavia
and that is different to GTI.

Why is exhaust tubing so (soot) black on the underside?
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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #184 on: August 16, 2011, 09:28:30 pm »
Cheers Baz I think it will fit just a little too close to the exhaust (as in touching) I should really just go and invest in the correct part but since I have it.... one thing that has been bothering me is the clips the screw into the screw thread on the subframe mount, they look like they should have a proper metal nut in them but if they do mine have gone awol.

Not sure why its so black bruce, after very short start up a good deal of water collects there on the pipe, the whole area around the rear wheels is terribly rusty (bet it makes snoopy cringe and glad he has waxoyl all over the place) so I dont think it ever got rinsed off in winter despite all the salt we have on our rounds here in the UK is rock salt and horrible to metals.   By the looks of the rear of the exhaust it wont be lasting long  :sad1:

It could be I need to adjust the exhaust but without being home and axle stands its difficult to do in my flat car park.

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #185 on: August 16, 2011, 10:45:33 pm »
Cheers Baz I think it will fit just a little too close to the exhaust (as in touching) I should really just go and invest in the correct part but since I have it.... one thing that has been bothering me is the clips the screw into the screw thread on the subframe mount, they look like they should have a proper metal nut in them but if they do mine have gone awol.

Hi Rich,

If you are fitting part# 1K0 513 713 D then fastner on the NS sub frame is a Rivet stud. Part# N 910 011 01. I broke 2 drill bits drilling into the sub frame. :rolleye:

For the part you are fitting which is longer my guess is it uses a bracket part# 1K0 825 221 for the NS , the opposite part being 1K0 501 682 for the OS.

Part number 1K0 825 221 is used for fastening the large cover on the NS where the exhaust box would be. These brackets also need the bolts/nuts etc


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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #186 on: August 17, 2011, 09:10:28 am »
Cheers Baz I have 1K0 501 682 as the part for the proper cover, so 1K0 825 221 is its mirror image for the rear passenger side mount and N905 483 05 and N901 838 02 are the nut and bolt for the subframe.

But on top of that did the plastic nut that locates into the long threaded part from the subframe (1K0 501 682) have a nylon nut or something else in inside the plastic holder?

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #187 on: August 17, 2011, 09:23:29 am »
But on top of that did the plastic nut that locates into the long threaded part from the subframe (1K0 501 682) have a nylon nut or something else in inside the plastic holder?

The three that hold the new front undetr tray on?  I found they were very tight to fasten (was only using cheap ratchet screwdriver)  Think it may just have been the locktite on then though

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #188 on: August 17, 2011, 11:18:22 am »
It's better first to 'recut' and clean the threads in the alloy subframe
to get the bolts easier in.
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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #189 on: August 17, 2011, 11:23:03 am »
It's better first to 'recut' and clean the threads in the alloy subframe
to get the bolts easier in.

I now have to drill and re tap the holes anyhow as Keanos driveway of death ripped 2 of the bolts (heads) out  :sad1:

If you currently have acess to you r ETKA wizzardry could you PM me p/n for ed30 / cupra / S3 fuel filter please, the one under the drivers sill  :happy2: :happy2:

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #190 on: August 17, 2011, 11:50:22 am »
It's better first to 'recut' and clean the threads in the alloy subframe
to get the bolts easier in.

I now have to drill and re tap the holes anyhow as Keanos driveway of death ripped 2 of the bolts (heads) out  :sad1:

If you currently have acess to you r ETKA wizzardry could you PM me p/n for ed30 / cupra / S3 fuel filter please, the one under the drivers sill   :happy2: :happy2:

Found it, 1k0201051C  :drinking:

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #191 on: August 17, 2011, 12:01:16 pm »
But on top of that did the plastic nut that locates into the long threaded part from the subframe (1K0 501 682) have a nylon nut or something else in inside the plastic holder?

The three that hold the new front undetr tray on?  I found they were very tight to fasten (was only using cheap ratchet screwdriver)  Think it may just have been the locktite on then though

No these are the ones that hold the rear trim on to the bracket that attaches to the rear axle, It has two little plastic parts that are semi bolt shapped and designed to collapse as tightened but they came with no nuts inside (think I am probably just going to go to hardware store and get two nylon nuts in stainless but wondered if others had nuts attached with there bits.

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #192 on: August 17, 2011, 12:03:58 pm »
But on top of that did the plastic nut that locates into the long threaded part from the subframe (1K0 501 682) have a nylon nut or something else in inside the plastic holder?

The three that hold the new front undetr tray on?  I found they were very tight to fasten (was only using cheap ratchet screwdriver)  Think it may just have been the locktite on then though

No these are the ones that hold the rear trim on to the bracket that attaches to the rear axle, It has two little plastic parts that are semi bolt shapped and designed to collapse as tightened but they came with no nuts inside (think I am probably just going to go to hardware store and get two nylon nuts in stainless but wondered if others had nuts attached with there bits.

Got ya, need to catch up with you lol have only done the 1st three mods

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #193 on: August 17, 2011, 02:58:50 pm »
Cheers Baz I have 1K0 501 682 as the part for the proper cover, so 1K0 825 221 is its mirror image for the rear passenger side mount and N905 483 05 and N901 838 02 are the nut and bolt for the subframe.

But on top of that did the plastic nut that locates into the long threaded part from the subframe (1K0 501 682) have a nylon nut or something else in inside the plastic holder?

Hi Rich,

The nut that you refer to is an expanding nut. Part # N908 338 01 for the correct cover. For some unknown reason I didn't get this :rolleye:, so I just used one of those S shaped clips that are used with the screws on the other panels.
Itis this bracket that the large N/S cover is attached too. But for the cover you are attaching you need a stud coming out of it for that plastic captive nut in the cover to attach to. I havn't found it listed in ETKA yet.

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Re: improving aerodynamics with OEM parts
« Reply #194 on: August 17, 2011, 03:05:52 pm »
Cheers Baz I have 1K0 501 682 as the part for the proper cover, so 1K0 825 221 is its mirror image for the rear passenger side mount and N905 483 05 and N901 838 02 are the nut and bolt for the subframe.

But on top of that did the plastic nut that locates into the long threaded part from the subframe (1K0 501 682) have a nylon nut or something else in inside the plastic holder?

Correction...found it.

The OS bracket part# 1K0 581 682, as we know.
The NS bracket part# 1K0 581 681.
And you need 2 bolts Part# N905 483 05 and 2 nuts part# N 901 838 02.

The bracket part# 1K0 825 221 is used for the cover part# 1K0 825 206A which is that large cover by the exhaust pipe.

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