370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??

[rich83]

http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/2-0tfsik04s2.html

Am i reading that correctly? I thought that S2 was about 320bhp?

Rich

[PDT]

Maybe what they call their stage2, but it does use stage2+ revo software.

[damoegan]

Yep, thats stage 2+..

[Janner_Sy]

thats the full shebang, intake, intercooler, exhaust, fuel pump.  there's nothing else you could add to that really without going BT on

[rich83]

I know the pic shows an IC, but its not mentioned in the description!

So 370 with S2+ ? Is that do-able? It sound A LOT!!

[damoegan]

Plenty of people have made 370bhp with stage 2+, Rich.

[Janner_Sy]

I know the pic shows an IC, but its not mentioned in the description!

So 370 with S2+ ? Is that do-able? It sound A LOT!!

its dependant on dyno.  if you go to awesome @ the moment then you will see 360-370hp. if you go to AMD you'll get 390hp  if you go to JKm you'll get 330Hp.  Id average the lot and that s prob about rigfht, which is about 360hp

[Sunglasses Ron]

I know the pic shows an IC, but its not mentioned in the description!

So 370 with S2+ ? Is that do-able? It sound A LOT!!

its dependant on dyno.  if you go to awesome @ the moment then you will see 360-370hp. if you go to AMD you'll get 390hp  if you go to JKm you'll get 330Hp.  Id average the lot and that s prob about rigfht, which is about 360hp

I'd second that... Not a bad price either really for what you get..

[PDT]

We generally see 350-380 from stg2+ depending on the cars spec.

Mine makes around 382bhp with settings of b9-t8-f5 but it has gone into limp mode a few times with these settings so I stick with t-6 and b-8 with 368bhp for everyday use.

The dyno we use is a dynodynamics (same software and hardware as JKM) and we have had many cars on that have been tested on othe DD dynos with figures within 1-2% tolerance being made. Not sure why JKM seem to get such low figures.   

[Saint Steve]

We generally see 350-380 from stg2+ depending on the cars spec.

Mine makes around 382bhp with settings of b9-t8-f5 but it has gone into limp mode a few times with these settings so I stick with t-6 and b-8 with 368bhp for everyday use.

The dyno we use is a dynodynamics (same software and hardware as JKM) and we have had many cars on that have been tested on othe DD dynos with figures within 1-2% tolerance being made. Not sure why JKM seem to get such low figures.    

Perhaps they strap the cars down more effectively then other tuners perhaps??

Do you run your cars in 3rd Gear or do you run in 4th??  the lower the gear ,the more likely you will see wheel spin and record high power/torque figures??

Have you ever run any stock Mk5's and if so, whats your "normal" readout compared to Vw's claimed output?

Jkm's rollers aernt on the stingy side, just more realistic for modifications done, rather then an increase of 150 bhp as your stating for a few modifications out of the same size turbo!

In my opinion 100bhp is about the limit or a realistic increase on a k04's potential without adding laughing gas or going as janner_sy says a BT.

[Janner_Sy]

must admit my vRS was plus minus 2Hp on the 4 dyno dynamics rollers i used. one of which were

JKM-portsmouth,
Alan jeffrey-plymouth,
IAM motorsport-kent and
Sanspeed kent.

Perhaps they strap the cars down more effectively then other tuners perhaps??

could quite easily be this.  Think this was after the surrey RR day.  He didnt make the figures he did @ surrey RR, so they went to new rollers iirc and made them

[MAT ED30]

  jkm the gods of rr results  bollox they must just like giving low numbers to you southerners 

[PDT]

Standard GTI on our dyno made 198.2bhp on Saturday, PD140 audi a4 made 142bhp and a standard ED30 made 231bhp last week.

strapping cars may be one thing, but as long as you strap according to the way that DD instruct you to do so durung your training then you cant go far wrong, most cars we run in 3rd gear, if strapped and loaded up correctly with the correct settings in the dyno then wheelspin isnt a problem, wheelspin is obvious. When you look at a graph and the operator will see it instantly.

I know a fair few Revo dealers that also see a consistent 350+ from stage2+ on a dyno dynamics dyno so its a mystery. We have a customer that has an s3 with stg2+ software, it made 357hp on ours and 398hp on another local dyno (not dyno dynamics) so shows that some will read sensible figures, other tuners use their dyno as smile machines  

Choose your tuner, use their dyno for comparisons before/after mods, dont bother going 'number shopping' around dynos and you will get a good consistent repeatable comparison.  

[TrickGTI]

jkm the gods of rr results  bollox they must just like giving low numbers to you southerners 

haha makes you spend more moneys you see 

[chungster]

best way would be for someone to do a dyno run a few RR's...then have their engine removed and ran on an engine dyno.

THEN we can say who's crap and who's closer to the truth.