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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2010, 04:51:25 pm »
Im all for the handling mods to be done first.  But for something as simple as a £500 stage 1 remap to get your self an extra 50hp, it is worth it before the suspension sage begins. 

id go
stage 1 remap
all suspension mods
brake mods
Stage 2+ mods(exhaust/IC/fuel pump/intake)

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2010, 04:53:35 pm »
^^^^^ X2

As the saying goes power is nothing without control.

Having invested a considerable amount of money tuning my vRS if I were doing it all again it would be Stage 1 followed by brakes, suspension, other handling (ARB's, ALK, Diff etc) in that order. What those mods were would depend on the use of the car. As i never track the car i wouldn't have anything track focused if it made day to day driving unbearable  Then after that I would look at upping power and things like engine mounts etc.

Ahem :P

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2010, 04:56:27 pm »
tend not to read your posts carl :wink:  only joking :P

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2010, 04:59:25 pm »
tend not to read your posts carl :wink:

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2010, 05:22:03 pm »
Im all for the handling mods to be done first.  But for something as simple as a £500 stage 1 remap to get your self an extra 50hp, it is worth it before the suspension sage begins. 

id go
stage 1 remap
all suspension mods
brake mods
Stage 2+ mods(exhaust/IC/fuel pump/intake)


yup sounds good to me, i think i will keep the car a fair while prob till im 40 (33 now) so will get my moneys worth out of the mods. The bug has bitten me a bit with the stg 1 map and some of the minor cosmetic mods have made so far, will get round to some pics at some stage
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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2010, 06:51:32 pm »
First mod should be LSD pure and simple as it will put the power on the road and drive so much better once its done  :smiley: i wish i had done the diff first if i am honest   :smiley:

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2010, 07:45:05 pm »
First mod should be LSD pure and simple as it will put the power on the road and drive so much better once its done  :smiley: i wish i had done the diff first if i am honest   :smiley:

How could I forget that mod :ashamed:

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2010, 09:44:57 am »
mmmm lsd eh - so what are best options - VWR? Peloquin? Quaife?
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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2010, 09:48:38 am »
Vwr is a quaife  :happy2: and that's what I have

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2010, 09:52:23 am »
Vwr is a quaife  :happy2: and that's what I have


ah ok just had a look on the vwr site - do you have to go to MK for them to fit things or will they deliver and then get your local garage to fit?
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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2010, 09:59:12 am »
there is also wavetrac. which is meant to be really good.  its torque biasing but acts almost like a plate diff.  pelequin have apparently brung out a new design of LSD.  BDMalex on here has one on his vRS

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2010, 10:00:14 am »
I wouldn't take a diff to any old garage. You need a gearbox specialist to take apart your box and fit the diff.

If I were you I would get another box and get the diff put in that if you can. Otherwise the diff is dead money as soon as you fit it. At least with a spare box you can sell it on afterwards or put it in another golf if you ever get one.

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2010, 10:08:53 am »
speak to Al on here (DJ horice).  he has a wavetrac LSD already fitted in a spare gearbox that he is selling.  (might already be gone though
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22699.0.html

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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2010, 04:36:09 pm »
Vwr is a quaife  :happy2: and that's what I have

I had Quaife too :happy2:
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Re: Experienced Modders - would you agree with this direction to take car in?
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2010, 07:05:52 pm »
I had all the power before 99.9% of other people and also had the car as "standard" with all the power at one point too. Admittedly mine was a Leon Cupra with the bigger brakes, but its my opinion that having big power on standard suspension, drivetrain and brakes (Cupra Brakes) is both doable and safe.

However, looking back, the mods I would consider necessary aside from the power are:

1) Engine Mount and gearbox mount upgrade as it reduces wheel hop which breaks components.
2) Uprated springs and possibly dampers - I had Eibach Sportlines on standard shocks and they were fine, but Eibach Coilies were good too. Reduces pitch and lean.

These are the only two things I would add with power upgrades - never tried an Ed30's brakes in ernest but you have to think about this simple fact with brakes - the standard car does over 150mph. Stage 2+ may add 15-20mph more. Realistically, is anyone really going to be driving at those speeds on a regular basis to need better brakes unless you do track work? Bigger power does not make standard brakes any less effective. Therefore in my opinion a brake upgrade is really not neccessary, but remember I am really only used with the 345mm brakes.

Its my personal opinion that unless you plan to track your car, don't bother with Anti Roll Bar Upgrades, and I have to say I am not convinced the Anti Lift Kit is really necessary either as the standard bushes do the same thing as the WALK pretty much. In addition, having had a Wavetrac Limited Slip Differential, again, I would not say that is entirely necessary unless you are intent on going from A to B as quickly as possible, and if you were, I would advise getting an S3 if you want a car with the same engine. You no doubt would lose accelaration after 80-90mph, but usable power at lower speeds will make up for it. In a straight line on the move after initial take off, and the Ed30/Cupra will take an S3 assuming a dry day.