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how long have you been running your uprated HPFP internals @ stage 2+

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40-50k
2 (6.7%)
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Offline wigit

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2011, 04:08:18 pm »
i bumped into revo carl at autosport, car was running a kmd and had its issue at 40k, def not running autotech
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2012, 02:37:25 pm »
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I've been running an APR on K03 Revo stage 2 for nearly 3,000 miles so far. The "failure trends" as this thread's title plus a car I know of which was wrecked by a fire caused by an Autotech HPFP failure is enough for me not to even want to consider the option of Autotech internals.

A friend on here who is an ex-VW Techie/Mechie has bought a brand new OEM pump to put new Autotech internals in - That seems to be a better option, unless you buy the APR. It's unfortunate that the APR costs so much but I have peace of mind.
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2012, 03:18:12 pm »
Maybe I don't fully understand the problem (I'm far from technically minded) but why don't Autotech slope the end of the piston instead of having a step?

If the failure is due to fuel getting under the step and being pushed past the pump seal into the oil wouldn't that stop the problem?
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2012, 03:47:53 pm »
APR rebuild pump for 70.000km without a hickup  :notworthy:
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2012, 04:32:00 pm »
When I spoke to Jabbasport, I asked about Autotech pump failures and they told me that they had fitted plenty of them in last 18-24 months with none failing thus far.

Am considering getting them fitted to my stage 2 ED30, might go new pump and internals for belt n braces, APR HPFP is not on my radar  :happy2:
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2012, 04:35:44 pm »
only issues with the autotech i thought had been down to incompetent people fitting them.
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2012, 04:38:10 pm »
Quote from: berg on July 20, 2012, 04:35:44 pm
only issues with the autotech i thought had been down to incompetent people fitting them.

 :scared: :scared:

I fitted mine  :grin:

40k miles and no issues thus far!
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2012, 04:42:34 pm »
I have sold over 350 sets accross europe and never had 1 back with a failure.

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2012, 04:51:59 pm »
Quote from: PDT on July 20, 2012, 04:42:34 pm

I have sold over 350 sets accross europe and never had 1 back with a failure.


....A more meaningful perspective would be to know a total of how many sets that Autotech have manufactured/sold.
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2012, 05:12:58 pm »
Im running Autotech internals since January 2012 and installed by myself in my original fuel pump. No issues so far. It would seem they are the choice for the Stertman Motorsport with their Golf R

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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2012, 05:23:35 pm »
Quote from: RedRobin on July 20, 2012, 04:51:59 pm
Quote from: PDT on July 20, 2012, 04:42:34 pm

I have sold over 350 sets accross europe and never had 1 back with a failure.


....A more meaningful perspective would be to know a total of how many sets that Autotech have manufactured/sold.

PDT's data set would probably work out as being mathematically significant when testing the null hypothesis that Autotech internals don't fail.

there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests failures are due to improper install, combined with the old design which i believe has been updated since? 
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2012, 06:41:39 pm »
Hi guys!

Just so you know, There are 2 types of Autotech out there...

1st Generation Autotech internals do not have serial codes nor Autotech logo but they are the ones known to seize. (Happened to my Leon last year...and recently discovered that my cam lobe is more or less knackered...)

Currently using the 2nd Gen internals, difference being that they have the logo & serial number but they said the 2nd gen internals have better protective coating and less likely to break unlike the older designs.

Surprisingly my 1st gen internals ran without fault for almost 40k+ and so far my 2nd gen internals are currently on 20k+ (roughly...touchwood!)

Once I get enough cash together, may just swap for APR. (Not sure when though!)


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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2012, 07:22:27 pm »
How much do apr charge to rebuild a pump then?
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2012, 08:11:54 pm »
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Re: Autotech internals and the recent failure trends
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2012, 08:26:11 pm »
Quote from: xjscx on July 20, 2012, 08:11:54 pm
Quote from: Shabba168 on July 20, 2012, 07:22:27 pm
How much do apr charge to rebuild a pump then?
£478

http://www.goapr.co.uk/products/fsi_fuel_pump.html

The proviso here is your hpfp must be in good condition when you send it to APR.
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