Revo stock isnt stock????????????

[Poverty]

bluefin and CC are tame. Take the car to shark performance or MRC if you cannot get revo to work

[Hedge]

^^ he's right

I'm sure I seem to remember someone having the wrong flavour of Tuna for their car from SC 

As did I but it was easily fixed due to decent customer service and avoidable if you specify which gearbox you have. 

[Janner_Sy]

^^ he's right

I'm sure I seem to remember someone having the wrong flavour of Tuna for their car from SC 

As did I but it was easily fixed due to decent customer service and avoidable if you specify which gearbox you have. 

'tis true, you say theres an issue with the map, and they will send you a revision.  No arguments or blame culture, just good customer service.  They do seem to do this alot though lol

[Top Cat]

I am not sure all this Revo bashing is helpful to the op. It would be easy to post lots of links to other tuners maps causing problems, incidentally it would be a much higher percentage of problems compared to Revo, but again it wont help the op. I can understand if it was proven to be there fault.  I seem to remember Illyun lambasting Revo as the cause of his woes and even JKM thought it wa,s but it turned out to be something else.

[KRL]

Fortunately I have not had any problems where I believed the SW was at fault so have not experience the poor customer service REVO others here have.  What I will say is that recently I have seen some threads from in another forum where the customer service offered from REVO was excellent and they actually put their hands up and admitted a sw issue.

Well 2 points learned today:

1. Tuners should be spending more time after the map has been put on driving the car in normal circs and not just putting certain settings on a car because they have worked for others (sometimes making the car down on power)

2. Revos customer service has been proved to be very good!

Cut a long story short I was destined to be driving back home 200 miles after 8hrs at revo as everything was failing in the fault diagnosis department and Ben was running out of ideas and I was rapidly going mental.

Loads of logs failed to show anything and the problem persisted.

We then put all the settings (FBT) at 0 and the issue vanished which prompted revo to be very honest and admit it was software related and not my car.

It seems some of the facelift s3's have something different about their ecus that doesn't agree with the revo switchable programme that causes the car to throw a wobbler like mine has done and other peoples exactly the same.

So......a custom stage 2+ programme written for my car (fixed settings and not able to be changed with sps) with different throttle settings was flashed to my car and due to the time I was asked to try it driving home as revo thought they had cracked it.

Sure enough the 200 odd mile drive was completely misfire/hesitation free to my relief. The throttle settings make it a linear throttle now so how far you press the throttle depends what power you get unlike the standard settings where you could quickly depress the throttle half way and literally get 100% throttle.

It's just a case of me getting used to this driving style now.

I have to report back to revo tomorrow who are going to revisit their code and update it with a view of developing a switchable code that also solves my initial issues. Technically my car has been a test mule today with loads of logs taken.

I'm happy with the new settings as the car flys and is very strong on full throttle.

Hopefully revo Kev or Ben the workshop manager will be on here to provide a more technical update than me as all I can give is layman's terms!

So.....its not plugs,coils,maf's,intakes,exhausts,theway you sit in a car and whether it's a full moon that makes your car run ***** so before spending a fortune replacing stuff blind on Internet whims take it to revo like I did and they will resolve it!

Followed by this from REVO Kev:

Nice to meet you yesterday, we really appreciate you taking the time to come to us and letting us look into the issue on your car. Sorry I wasnt around later on in the day... got called home due to the entire family having this sick bug thats going round!
 
We currently have the software engineers looking into the profile for the later facelift cars, there's something that really wasn't happy on your car. That said it's not all 2.0TFSI's that are affected. The Golf R we had in yesterday doesn't suffer from the same issue, neither do the facelift Leon Cupra's that we have dealers running. I spent a bit of time yesterday speaking to dealers from various parts of the world that run the later spec cars themselves. There are 5 (off the top of my head) variations of the factory S3 2.0TFSI software, this issue looks to be specific to the one in your car however the team is looking into it right now so we'll know for sure if it's isolated to that software code later this week (hopefully). Whatever updates we do we'll make available foc, we're currently testing some internal software that compiles all the data from our dealer logfiles this should let me find out how many cars have been flashed and need updating once we know which codes are to be updated.
 
In regards to Revo settings; we spoke yesteday about running things too high. Boost 9 will always request a higher level of tune throughout the rev range however it will only be achieved if the conditions are acceptable. I'm a big believer in more isn't always better however there's far too much emphasis on big peak numbers (which lets face it, that's normally the first thing we all look at!). The adjustability in the Revo software is there to allow each car to be setup to give the owner the best possible drive from their car and modifications. The ECU is adaptive so it will try to compensate if it sees something it doesn't like, asking too much from a car will cause the ECU to pull load out and the car can feel a little sluggish and not quite as smooth as it can be. It's the timing settings that I tend to see as being set too high the most. That said I've never personnally had any issues running boost request at 9 and setting fuelling and timing to suit on any of the Stage2+ spec cars I've run/setup, I believe this 'problem' that we're tracking down is causing a switch of tables at partial throttle/load and this 'hesitation' at this point is being accentuated the more we request from the car.
 
Life might be much easier if we set a default for each given stage, however in doing that it would have to be at a level that caters for the worst possible fuel, conditions and hardware which would be a huge way off the potential of the vast majority of the cars we see (Especially in the UK as we have pretty bad weather which the cars love!!!) and we all want the most from our cars!
 
Thanks again for coming in yesterday, as soon as we have a full update we'll be in touch and will let everyone know!

Full thread here:
http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=5399

So as you can see sometimes they do put their hands up and admit the SW is at fault.

[vRStu]

That's actually an issue that's been around since 2008 but has only recently come to light and the person in question did jump through hoops before the software was eventually accepted as the cause.

[Saint Steve]

^^ he's right

I'm sure I seem to remember someone having the wrong flavour of Tuna for their car from SC 

As did I but it was easily fixed due to decent customer service and avoidable if you specify which gearbox you have.  

He's right    

[Poverty]

One of super chips programmers now works for revo!

[heavyd]

Good news is that fault code has stayed away and I;ve done twice the miles that it usually taes to appear, and 6mpg better off!, bad news I cant get a revo file until saturday
If Revo doesnt work out, I'm just going to try to get a refund and try elsewhere

[heavyd]

What about getting Dave's stage 2/+?

As in a PDT 2+ remap? 

Yep. If he's getting a refund from REVO!

Just a thought, something else to consider...

Fair point.  Id be breaking free with the 30 day money back guarantee before it finishes personally

I've decided to jump ship, sick of the whole affair now. Just waiting for Dave and I'm going for the refund.

[Janner_Sy]

I say go shark performance with the STS handset.  you can 100% swap between OEM stock and performance maps when ever you want then.

REGI on here has shark performance stage 2 on his ed30 http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,20142.msg277535.html#msg277535 not the biggest review though 

[Saint Steve]

Shark performance or RTech are also very well sorted

[Janner_Sy]

+1, heard lots of good stuff about Rtech as well.  id also consider P-Torque

[damoegan]

Thumbs up for P-Torque 

I've had 3 of Will's maps now 

[heavyd]

When I get my money back(Revo said it's straight forward, not so sure it's going to be) I think I might try shark, nobody has anything bad to say about his maps, his maps are the staple diet over on briskoda. Will be interesting to see if the fault code reappears if I do get it mapped there anyway. Fingers crossed Dave refunds me quick so I can get the third and final map on the car