Stage 1 Ed30 - Which Remap?

[marka87uk]

I'm thinking about a remap for my Edition 30 and I see most of the people here seem to be running Revo and then the majority of the others running Bluefin.

If I only really plan to stick at Stage 1, what would you suggest? I'd be aiming for as close to 300bhp as possible but I've read previous reports of the Bluefin not reaching claimed figures (does anyone have dyno graphs of Stage 1 remaps of a Bluefin and/or Revo map?). I also notice their website states they're now using the same maps for the manual and DSG versions!?

I was quoted £600 inc VAT for a Revo map at AMD Essex with before and after rolling road runs but a Bluefin would only be about £410 inc a 10% forum discount, however I'd happily pay more for the Revo if I knew I was getting a much better product.

What would you suggest?

[damoegan]

Where are you based at?

What about P-Torque in Wolverhampton? I'm running Will's stage one on the Eddy and it makes 300+bhp, as do all the mk3 Leon Cupra's that they do.

They only charge circa £300 for stage 1 with before and after rolling road printout..

Here's my printout running 95 fuel..



I also had Will's stage 1 and stage 2 on my old Ibiza cupra and made great power  

[Janner_Sy]

REVO will give you better figures thats for sure.

HeavyD swapped from bluefin to revo http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23578.0.html
But has had issues since the swap
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,24274.0.html

I had bluefin  myself.  i swapped to shark performance which was very good and a vast improvement.  Priced in the middle of revo and bluefin, but on par with revo performance, and with the option of a handset if you wish.  Theres only a handful on here who have used him, but on briskoda he has the monopoly when it comes to remapping.  (almost like revo has on here)

heard good things about ptorque as well.  Im considering REVO for my TSI when it comes, but am leaning towards ptorque and bluefin. id rather make slightly less but have the longevity

[PDT]

Revo tends to be a lot punchier and more powerfull than Bluefin as bluefin is a generic '1size fits all' map. Dont overlook good independants either, many get similar results and drivability to the big brand tuners (Revo is £499 for stage 1 and our own custom tuned stage 1 is £299) some of our customers actually prefer ours to the big brands they have had in the past. 

Ignore mobile tuners that offer the world for £150 in an obscure carpark on a rainy sunday afternoon and tuners without dynos to test and develop their software or email your software off to Germany and wait 15 mins to get back a generic map probably copied from a £5.99 disc purchased on ebay.

Find a local specialist with a decent knowledge of your engine type with the right diagnostic tools and you wont go far wrong



 

[Kiwi]

Revo tends to be a lot punchier and more powerfull than Bluefin as bluefin is a generic '1size fits all' map. Dont overlook good independants either, many get similar results and drivability to the big brand tuners (Revo is £499 for stage 1 and our own custom tuned stage 1 is £299) some of our customers actually prefer ours to the big brands they have had in the past. 

Ignore mobile tuners that offer the world for £150 in an obscure carpark on a rainy sunday afternoon and tuners without dynos to test and develop their software or email your software off to Germany and wait 15 mins to get back a generic map probably copied from a £5.99 disc purchased on ebay.

Find a local specialist with a decent knowledge of your engine type with the right diagnostic tools and you wont go far wrong



 

So Dave if you did your's for £299 and wanted the DSG map also, whats the cost of the DSG stage 1 also?????

[marka87uk]

Thanks for your advice - giving me more options to think on though!

Wolverhampton is a bit far from me really, but that does seem good value.

I wonder if anyone on here has used AMD's own map? Quoted figures look good and it comes with dyno runs. I only ask as it's near to me and I've been to them before!

http://www.amdessex.com/product.details.cfm?ProductID=2590&VariantID=373&ReferenceID=8192

Where is Shark Performance?

[Janner_Sy]

At the last JKM rolling road day a golf with the stage 2 AMD technik map made a smidgen under REVO stage 2 cars on the day, so very comparable (although ignore AMD figures, as his made about an extra 30hp on AMDs rollers compared to JKM)

Shark performance is in Nottingham/Mansfield. Although you can do the STS handset which is like the bluefin handset and do it all from your home.

I drove from Kent upto Nottingham, had the map custom written on my car (spent alot of time out on the duel carriageways logging and adjusting with them until i was happy), and then he loaded it onto an STS handset for me.

So ive had the best of both worlds in that respect.  but alot of guys have just gone for the STS handset do it from home map.  They still make good figures though

[marka87uk]

Thanks!

Shark Performance's website states £399 for the map + £150 for the STS. For that price I think I'd rather go for the AMD map - I think I'd feel a bit happier letting them do the remap and also have dyno prints to ensure all is as it should be!

[heavyd]

Thanks!

Shark Performance's website states £399 for the map + £150 for the STS. For that price I think I'd rather go for the AMD map - I think I'd feel a bit happier letting them do the remap and also have dyno prints to ensure all is as it should be!

There's vat to go on top of that aswell

[marka87uk]

Ah, it'd work out quite a bit more than the AMD map then which is £500 inc VAT. Quite tempted but I wish there were some more reviews of it!

Unless anyone can recommend me other good tuning companies in Essex?

[wigit]

been runing stage 1 on the GTI Pirelli for over 20,000 miles and love it, was wary of mapping it as thought it would spoilt the enjoyment but quite the reverse, i like the flexibility of the select+ given how quick you can change settings, that said its worth noting its not a factory stock map its revos version

that said the forum member who i flogged my bluefin handset too (off my rocco) is equally happy with bluefin once he got the correct dsg map sent through

comes down to choice, cash and how you like your power/torque delivered

the GTI may go Stage 2 but in reality more than happy with it at Stage 1 as its a fast and comfortable everyday car and cruiser and just eat miles

[edd666999]

I'm thinking about a remap for my Edition 30 and I see most of the people here seem to be running Revo and then the majority of the others running Bluefin.

If I only really plan to stick at Stage 1, what would you suggest? I'd be aiming for as close to 300bhp as possible but I've read previous reports of the Bluefin not reaching claimed figures (does anyone have dyno graphs of Stage 1 remaps of a Bluefin and/or Revo map?). I also notice their website states they're now using the same maps for the manual and DSG versions!?

I was quoted £600 inc VAT for a Revo map at AMD Essex with before and after rolling road runs but a Bluefin would only be about £410 inc a 10% forum discount, however I'd happily pay more for the Revo if I knew I was getting a much better product.

What would you suggest?

Dont chase the figure, you want proven dyno's showing progressive power and a smooth torque curve, Anyone can hit high numbers but you want those numbers while keeping the engine safe!

[garrardrj]

Theres a bluefin for sale on the for sale section. I paid £300 to gazb for mine and the difference is amazing just for a bit of a remap. I would say what one you choose would depend on what else you intend to do to the car....exhaust hpfp intake etc. Try the secondhand bluefin first , you don't need any more more for raod use. Come and have a run in mine to see the difference , i'm in Ipswich

[Carrera2RS]

I am very interested in driveability and response more than power.

I have driven one car that was clearly very powerful and responsive at speed, say driving at 60mph on the motorway and flooring the throttle. But driving around there was a lot of lag and I didn't like the car for this. It reminded me why I moved away from Turbo's years ago, there was sufficient lag and obvious spool up of power between gears etc.

Is this normal, I don't know the map that was in the car. I have no doubt the stage 1 map was powerful, but only added to the experience for me on the motorway. The other mods were DV and rear box (miltek)

Any comments guys ?

[madsex343]

I am very interested in driveability and response more than power.

I have driven one car that was clearly very powerful and responsive at speed, say driving at 60mph on the motorway and flooring the throttle. But driving around there was a lot of lag and I didn't like the car for this. It reminded me why I moved away from Turbo's years ago, there was sufficient lag and obvious spool up of power between gears etc.

Is this normal, I don't know the map that was in the car. I have no doubt the stage 1 map was powerful, but only added to the experience for me on the motorway. The other mods were DV and rear box (miltek)

Any comments guys ?

Something does not add up here... The car even at stage 1 has a a huge difference from stock with absolutely no lag...  Something must have been wrong with the car you are reffering to...