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Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« on: February 09, 2011, 08:09:16 am »
Guys,

Looking for a little advise please. I've just purchased a complete bluetooth kit (the 9W7) in advanced for the wife's new Polo 6R which we should get in the next month or so. Unfortunately, it seems that only our German friends get the option of specifying bluetooth with the new Polo, everyone esle has to do without.  :confused:

The kit I've purchased is a complete unit. It's the new HFP bluetooth module 7P6 035 730 C, as well as W original underseat foam - 3C0 919 738, VW-original Microphone - 3B0 035 711 B and Plug and Play Wiring specific to avoid having to cut wires! + bridge for voice recognition on RNS 510 + AD2P using just one microphone. (sales blurp from advert)

Now, having never fitted a VW blueooth kit before, I'm assuming the install will be almost identical to if I were installing in a Golf ?

One of the questions I've been thinking about, is the bluetooth unit (sat in it's foam holder), I guess will just be sat under the drivers seat by velcro but where do you normally route the harness ? I know that the mic will have to travel up the drivers side A pillar therefore that part at least I assume needs to run under the driver door sill moulding, behind the kick well panel (where the bonnet release is) and up the A pillar and across to the interior light assembly. But what about the main wiring loom, does that follow the same path ? Say up to the fuse box in the side panel, then route across above the pedals to the headunit, or do you route this harness from it's position under the drivers seat to the centre console then up under the console to the head unit ?

Are there generally positions under the seats to allow the cables to pass under the carpet ? I knwo we are talking about a new Polo and not a Golf but I have to assume they are very similar ?

With regards to coding, again I guess it's a case of ticking [44] Telephone in the CAN gateway, but would there be any other coded to be done to get it to work with the Polo's RCD510 head unit and to be able to use the phone and microphone buttons on the MFSW ?

Thanks in advace for any advise, just want to be prepared so that when it arrives, I can install in one go without any surprises.

Cheers

Andrew
« Last Edit: February 09, 2011, 08:14:05 am by Norbreck21a »

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 08:47:24 am »
Morning Andy, Following your assumption that its the same as the Golf then cabling runs up the outside under the door sill etc as you have assumed for your microphone run, there is in the golf a little plastic flap which allows you to access through the carpet to a cable well that runs under the seat fixing to the door sill, its a tight squeeze but worth the effort in the long run.

Your best bet is to read Stu install guide off his Skoda VRS site its what I used and its truly a great write up and resource!  :happy2:
http://octavia-vrs.com/cms/content/integrated-bluetooth

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 08:52:46 am »
Morning to you as well Rich.

Cheers for the link , I'll have a read  :happy2:

Andrew

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 01:09:27 pm »
As above I would use the door sill area, up past the bonnet pull and behind the dash clocks for the main loom and then on up the A pillar for the mirophone.

Not sure on Coding, I've never looked at a new Polo but I guess if it has a gateway with long coding then yes enable 77 Telephone.  There may be something in the HU with regard to telephone to change but you'll be best to have a look when you get it.
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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 02:22:38 pm »
Hi Andrew,

As these guys have said running up the drivers sill is the 'proper' way to do it.

I on the other hand did it 'my' way! I removed the ashtray and fitted my interface under there, it just fits.

Much easier and quicker than running up the sill as you can drop the cable down when you remove the stereo and as I did'nt have the foam holder and bracket it saved me buying it  :happy2:

Also it will be much easier to remove when I come to sell. Now obviously that was in my Golf so I'm not sure if there is room in the same place in the Polo?

Also you already have the extra bits and I'm sure you won't be worried about ease of removal if you sell as you have only just bought it!

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 06:33:55 pm »
Thanks guys. Just starting to wonder now if the bloody thing will work. I've read on german forums that they can order from the factory with the 9w7 module, but unlike us, they also get a high line dash. In this country, it isn't even an option yet, so whilst the unit will physically fit, and will probably show up on the RCD-510, I'm now wondering as I won't be able to access the "Phone" menu in the MFD, if I'll be able to properly set it up and pair with a phone.

Only time will tell I suppose?

Good job the Rocco has it all in fro the factory  :grin: (wouldn't want to do this twice!)

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 06:40:15 pm »
It will only show on the RCD510 Andrew if the car does'nt have highline display  :sad1:
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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 07:21:59 pm »
I think you'll find it'll work on an RCD510 with/without the Highline.
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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 10:51:14 am »
Im not running the same BT kit Andy, I have 729B but I just use it with RNS510 and midline controller, everything works as you would expect, dependant on phone (which I have found varies) I have phone book access last dialled missed number list, 6 short-cut speed dial icons and full number pad support.

It will work fine just by using the RCD510 as the interface.

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 10:56:20 am »
It will only show on the RCD510 Andrew if the car does'nt have highline display  :sad1:

I think you'll find it'll work on an RCD510 with/without the Highline.

Is'nt that what I said Stu??
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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 05:06:22 pm »
I read it as it will only show on the headunit if you don't have highline - meaning if you do it won't.  :evilgrin:

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2011, 06:04:58 pm »
Thanks guys, absolutely as clear as mud  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2011, 06:22:31 pm »
 :rolleye:

Well you read it wrong  :P
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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2011, 06:30:08 pm »
Clearly  :stupid: :notworthy:
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Re: Fitting a VW 9W7 Bluetooth Kit
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2011, 06:44:55 pm »
Ok ok

Andrew if the car does'nt have highline display it will only show on the RCD510.

It will only show on the RCD510 Andrew if the car does'nt have highline display  :sad1:

Not that it matters how you arrange the sentence, the meaning is the same..... :innocent:

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