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Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« on: February 12, 2011, 06:15:48 pm »
Need a bit of help if possible, have installed Bluetooth phone kit today and went to code it got the following.

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052
Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 100907F1001462
Coding: ED817F064006020003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3065F88ADAA5

2 Faults Found:
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 227
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:00:50

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:00:54

Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID       H04 2680
Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7J9320057
Coding: 080100400100001200
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E59E6F2C091

2 Faults Found:
00859 - Line-Output; Front Right
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 4
Mileage: 37568 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:32

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:27

Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID       H04 2680
Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7J9320057
Coding: 080100400100001200
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E59E6F2C091

2 Faults Found:
00859 - Line-Output; Front Right
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 4
Mileage: 37568 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:32

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 37569 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:07:27

Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

Anybody have any ideas.
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 06:24:22 pm »
Which phone kit is it model number and what wiring loom have you used??

Cheers

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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 06:30:35 pm »
This one.

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23177.0.html

Used the wiring loom supplied + parts from SteveP
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 06:38:36 pm »
Thats the one I have in mine, so upto now what have you done in the way of wiring, Is Steve's loom a plug and play?  or one that needs the wires crimping into the headunit loom?

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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 06:50:54 pm »
Steve’s loom was just a 2 wire plug in to the green connector for the microphone, pins 1 and 7, microphone in; all the grey wires were marked with the pin numbers. The only two that were not marked were for the microphone out low these traced back to the Bluetooth module under the driver’s seat, pins 11 and 12. Its only this or the can bus wiring high and low the wrong way around but I’m sure its right.   :scared:
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 07:24:35 pm »
That's sounds like the original loom is missing one or more of the 12v, earth or CAN Hi / Low connections.

How did you connect into the power and can connections on the quadlock connector?
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 07:37:58 pm »
You've got a break in the CAN wires on the infotainment Bus, likely caused by when you've made the connection to the telephone.  You'll need to sort that first as the Gateway won't 'see' the Telephone if the CAN isn't connected.

The line output I would say is possibly a speaker wire disturbed during the install.

When you made the connections were you referring to the sticker on the headunit?
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 07:52:30 pm »
Can high pin 9  orange/lilac
Can low pin 10  orange/brown

Earth pin 12 brown
power either pin 15 or 16 red

That should be fine, make sure the can high and low is twisted together upto the quadlock otherwise you may get communication problems

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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2011, 07:58:14 pm »
Eddie supplied the wire connector and it was just take out

Remove Earth Wire (Pin 12) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN2 on plug
Remove Power Wire (Pin 15) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN1 on plug
Remove CAN Hi Wire (Pin9) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN3 on plug
Remove CAN Lo wire (pin10) from Radio Housing Plug and insert into PIN4 on plug

This was already wired into the loom, there were 2 wires left which I was not sure about but had to go into the green plug as they were the right size pins. These were pin 4 and pin 9, microphone out. Too dark now, but will take pictures tomorrow. Thanks for the help guys.
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2011, 08:51:53 pm »
Sounds like you're along the right lines.
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 12:17:46 pm »
Have been out this morning and double checked the wiring and it is wired correctly for can high and can low, the + and – are in the correct place and as far as I can tell all the wiring in the green plug is correct. Have now disconnected all the wiring that I have fitted so am now back to where I was before fitting the Bluetooth kit. Think I am going to have to remove all the wiring and check through the connections. Not today as its persistently raining.  :fighting:
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 01:45:57 pm »
Right, with everything to do with the Bluetooth disconnected and VCDS on the car after clearing the fault codes it comes back with this:

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

Will remove the wiring loom from the car for the Bluetooth and check all the connections next.   :confused:
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2011, 08:45:24 pm »
I think you ought to be able to check the cable without removing it to be honest.

I'd start in the region of the headunit end and make sure the pass through connections are intact and correct.  Once you've done that use a multimeter to check from the large (telephone) plug back to the respective pin at the headunit end.
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 09:18:42 pm »
Edd has been in contact about this and has pointed me in the direction of the connections that he made, so will start there first. Have left the car so that I can just remove the dash panel and get to the loom through there as it will be quicker than removing the sat/nav.  :happy2:
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Re: Bluetooth Phone Install Problem
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2011, 06:58:52 pm »
Right this is where the connections are going from the green plug on the back of the sat/nav.
Green plug number   BT Plug under driver’s seat (Blue)
1   Mic -
2 Empty   
3 Empty   
4   12
5   3
6   9
7   Mic +
8 Empty   
9   11
10   16
11   4
12   8

Plug split into loom (Terminals removed from existing loom)
Edd’s connector   BT Plug under driver’s seat (Blue)
1   1   Power
2   2 Earth
3   18 Can High
4   17 Can Low

All connections are good and have continuity.

Do I need to move some of the connections around as the grey wires are marked with the pin numbers for going in to the green plug,
but checking here

http://www.my-gti.com/173/volkswagen-skoda-bluetooth-pinouts

these numbers do not seam to tie up. :scared:
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