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Offline berg

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Autotech vs APR HPFP
« on: February 23, 2011, 11:15:05 am »
the price difference is quite a lot really and whilst i understand the APR pump is better and less likely to be any issues with fuel getting into the oil etc my question is can the extra £400 ish really be justified?

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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 11:18:11 am »
IMO yes, i had the same considerations and i found that a possible fault by a pump refitted by me or another non tech guy would cost more than the comfort of knowing the pump has been assembled by some that does it for a  living and have been tested before shipping to me was worth the extra cost.
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 01:36:18 pm »
IMO no, they both do the same thing, just make sure you get somebody who knows what they are doing to swap the internals, i did mine myself and was fine for 20k miles untill i sold the car.  :smiley:
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 02:03:53 pm »
Having used both (i went from Autotech to APR) i can say yes the difference is worth it.

However i did get 50k miles out of the Autotech (which i installed myself) before they started to fail.

So a way to look at it is pay for Autotech & potentially pay twice (cost of APR anyway) or pay for APR straight away and have peace of mind.

Just my Tuppence :happy2:
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 02:58:37 pm »
thanks for input, still torn really but if vrsstu still has his by friday might go for it especially as no one else seems interested in pdt's group buy on the autotech...
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 05:39:00 pm »
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I've got no experience of either but I greatly value the opinions of those like JKM and they very strongly recommend the APR over the Autotech which they used to offer. Everyone says the same: The APR gives greater peace of mind. But it ain't cheap!
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 06:02:16 pm »
Worth noting that APR dealers also make about 5x more profit from an APR pump than you make from an autotech pump :wink:


Also the APR pump only provides 125 bar not the 130 bar fuel pressure that most software such as Revo demands on stg2+. This isnt to say the APR product isnt any good, its a great product although very expensive compared to the alternatives. if you feel the £700+ is a worthwhile investment then go for it, but after selling 120+ AT pumps and fitting 60+ of them and some of these cars running the AT pump for over 50k miles we have never had a single pump back under warranty. 
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2011, 06:39:51 pm »
Quote from: PDT on February 23, 2011, 06:02:16 pm
Also the APR pump only provides 125 bar not the 130 bar fuel pressure that most software such as Revo demands on stg2+.

Sorry Dave thats wrong.

I've got logs of my Car on Stage 2+ with the APR Pump and it quite happily meets the requested 130bar.
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2011, 06:54:25 pm »
Quote from: vRS Carl on February 23, 2011, 06:39:51 pm
Quote from: PDT on February 23, 2011, 06:02:16 pm
Also the APR pump only provides 125 bar not the 130 bar fuel pressure that most software such as Revo demands on stg2+.

Sorry Dave thats wrong.

I've got logs of my Car on Stage 2+ with the APR Pump and it quite happily meets the requested 130bar.

 :happy2:

I've seen as much as 139bar on one point, with my APR pump.
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 06:58:57 pm »
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I think it goes without saying (so I'll say it!) that those who have spent money buying Autotech pumps will sing their praises and those with APR pumps will sing theirs.

If they were both exactly the same price, which would you go for?

I'd go for the APR every time (and I'm running a standard oem pump).
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2011, 07:10:30 pm »
PDT, i have a steady 130 bar on my APR for 45.000 km now  :happy2:
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2011, 07:11:31 pm »
Personally if they were both the same price I'd still go for the APR unit.  APR hardware (the stuff I have that is) has been great, fit's well and does exactly what it is supposed to.

If I were to do it all again, I wouldn't hesitate, I get the same stuff again.

I have to admit though, I didn't pay full price for the IC or HPFP.  Which took the sting out of it.
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2011, 07:11:40 pm »
Quote from: vRS Carl on February 23, 2011, 02:03:53 pm
Having used both (i went from Autotech to APR) i can say yes the difference is worth it.

However i did get 50k miles out of the Autotech (which i installed myself) before they started to fail.

So a way to look at it is pay for Autotech & potentially pay twice (cost of APR anyway) or pay for APR straight away and have peace of mind.

Just my Tuppence :happy2:
How did they start to fail Carl, was it fuel into oil?
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2011, 07:13:28 pm »
Quote from: martziniuk on February 23, 2011, 07:11:40 pm
Quote from: vRS Carl on February 23, 2011, 02:03:53 pm
Having used both (i went from Autotech to APR) i can say yes the difference is worth it.

However i did get 50k miles out of the Autotech (which i installed myself) before they started to fail.

So a way to look at it is pay for Autotech & potentially pay twice (cost of APR anyway) or pay for APR straight away and have peace of mind.

Just my Tuppence :happy2:
How did they start to fail Carl, was it fuel into oil?

Yep.

Luckily it was caught in time before it did any major damage :happy2:
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Re: Autotech vs APR HPFP
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2011, 07:28:19 pm »
Quote from: vRS Carl on February 23, 2011, 06:39:51 pm
Quote from: PDT on February 23, 2011, 06:02:16 pm
Also the APR pump only provides 125 bar not the 130 bar fuel pressure that most software such as Revo demands on stg2+.

Sorry Dave thats wrong.

I've got logs of my Car on Stage 2+ with the APR Pump and it quite happily meets the requested 130bar.


Sorry, my mistake. I was going off logs from 2 cars with APR pumps and software, its the software that requests 125bar, not the capability of the pump.
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