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Offline Richn83

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 01:37:43 pm »
Fuse diagram for the MK5 on this link might help you out.  have you tried something else other than your sat nav charger in the slot to check its the slot and not the charger gone funny?  could also be worthwhile cleaning the contacts make sure they arent dirty or cover over by a stray piece of paper etc?
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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 02:29:14 pm »
Fuse diagram for the MK5 on this link might help you out.  have you tried something else other than your sat nav charger in the slot to check its the slot and not the charger gone funny?  could also be worthwhile cleaning the contacts make sure they arent dirty or cover over by a stray piece of paper etc?
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B4JrcYcfSOQGOGE0NTlkMjAtOGMwNS00Y2EwLWJmNTMtMmUxYzBjMjlhN2E0&hl=en_GB

Visually inspected the socket (inside and out) and it looksclean enough but I'll give it a wipe just incase. I've tried the cigarette lighter push button thing aswell as my satnav charger (which works in the back cig lighter socket).
Cheers for the link , but I have a copy of that and it doesn't seem to be for my car; that pdf identifies fuse slot 42 as the fag lighter one but 42 is empty in my fusebox (and there are no terminals to fit a fuse).  What with the ESP seeming to work despite the marked fuse missing I'm starting to wonder if the fuse map in  the fuse box lid is wrong too.
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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 02:37:57 pm »
They did change the fusebox layout in Oct 05 - seeings as yours is an 04, it might be affected by this.


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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 03:05:14 pm »
Can't find an 04 diagram on the net either :(

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 03:28:51 pm »
Thats the older ESP system where the button illuminates instead of the dash

The button and the dash illuminate on older models. I had the same issue OP, I swapped the fuse with once but it didn't work but the second time it miraculously started working again. Btw I hope your looking on the drivers side fusebox.

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 03:50:22 pm »
looking at the fuse diagram that you say isn't correct it puts both front and rear lighter sockets on the same fuse, would suggest that even if the points had changed that the rear shouldnt be working either.

Looking at the diagram below that black cylindrical object on the side of the metal casing looks a lot like a fuse holder, worth a look?

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 05:06:57 pm »
Thats the older ESP system where the button illuminates instead of the dash

The button and the dash illuminate on older models. I had the same issue OP, I swapped the fuse with once but it didn't work but the second time it miraculously started working again. Btw I hope your looking on the drivers side fusebox.
Just checked, both the dash and button lights come on when I press the ESP button.....but the fuse marked "ABS/ESP" is missing.
And yeah it is the fuse box on the side of the dash, concealed by the drivers door.

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 05:31:59 pm »
looking at the fuse diagram that you say isn't correct it puts both front and rear lighter sockets on the same fuse, would suggest that even if the points had changed that the rear shouldnt be working either.

Looking at the diagram below that black cylindrical object on the side of the metal casing looks a lot like a fuse holder, worth a look?
According to the diagram in the fuse box lid : #24  is the cigarette lighter (picture of a cig on it) and #26 is the boot charger (pic of a 12v outlet). I've changed and triple tested these and they're fine.

Is the rear outlet the same wiring and design?  Could I just pop it out and pop it in the front and see if it works?

The other thing I've thought is, this is an ex company car (thrashed I'd guess) if it's not broke is it possible they'd have disabled it to discourage employees smoking in there?

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 05:41:52 pm »
When you open up the fusebox on the drivers side, there will be a card attached to it. This shows the fuse layout. IIRC the cig lighter is linked to an icon with ventilating signs on it. I wouldn't worry about the ABS/ESP fuse missing, I'm pretty sure mine was also. The ABS/ESP definitely work so I think that fuse is elsewhere.

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 06:28:57 pm »
Sorted.
I am a f*cking moron. :chicken:



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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2011, 06:42:20 pm »
You can't leave it like that!  Spill  :grin:
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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2011, 06:55:18 pm »
You can't leave it like that!  Spill  :grin:
Despite testing every fuse (one must have got through the net) ...it was a fuse...
And the worst of it was it was exactly where it should have been just the tit holding the fuse layout card was reading it the wrong way round   :ashamed:

The fuses marked at the left of the card....are not on the left of the fuse box (as you look at it from the outside). sigh

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2011, 07:06:46 pm »
Glad its sorted  :happy2:


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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2011, 07:11:38 pm »
Glad its sorted  :happy2:
ypu don't have to hold back  :wink:

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Re: Front cigarette lighter socket not working
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2011, 07:48:27 pm »
I think the card is printed for LHD cars ... I couldn't make head nor tail of the guide for my wife's polo as nothing seemed to mach up!
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