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Caution when getting a trial
Hedge:
What your new tuner should be doing is flash you back to stock and then apply their map.
Simplessss :wink:
PDT:
Revo trial doesnt lock the ECU or anything at all of this nature, however it does leave a Revo version of stock on the ECU.
Tuners will struggle to read off the data if the trial data is still installed, however all that needs doing is to flash a stock factory file to the ecu, easy for any competent tuner to do, the factory stock file is readily available free of charge.
BUT, and this is a big one, some tools are designed to only flash small data areas i.e a file in the Ecu is 1024k but the tool only reads/writes 256k of data so misses off an awfull lot so you dont end up with a fully completed write.
The solution is to always do either:
1.take the car back at the end of the trial and ask for the factory file to be re-installed
2. Make sure the tuner is aware of the trial software so they know that they need to flash to stock.
However, some tuners dont make your new tuned software from your original software, they will look online for a cheap/free tuned file that is a close match to your original software and try and flash just the data area over the top of the existing trial software, this results in a dead ECU or an ECU that needs recovering via BDM (background debug mode) on the bench.
If the tuner does make your new tuned map from the trial, they will quickly realise its not stock and wont try to flash anything over the trial, this is something an experienced professional will be able to see and will carry out the rest of the procedure accordingly.
Luckily for the OP he did use an experience professional and the job was completed succesfully :happy2:
johnhol78:
All done thank god though took ages to get the Revo map off whatever that means.
The car made 214bhp stock...Revo stock that is..
Then the second run ran 182 after trying to read the map......
After the remap it ran 3 times as first was not configured and showed 180bhp, then 240, then 230....
It kept trying dropping back so it wasn't reading properly...
By this time it was 6.30 at it closes at 5 so they said it was likely to be about 235bhp.....though the curve was constant to 7k.....didn't drop much at all...
Will post up the dyno later.
Also the fact it's due a service might help - plugs, air filter, oil service as well.....
Obviously not as high numbers as Revo though feels much smoother all the way through the revs......
revo carl:
Hi Guys;
Following John's email i thought I'd paste my response up for you all to see :happy2:
--- Quote ---Hi John;
We don’t lock any other tuners out, any tuner worth there salt can flash a full factory file and this is all the need to do to remove trial software. The reason we stop people reading out our software is to stop people stealing our IP I’m sure you can understand this.
All the tuners out there that are on a par with our technologies and knowledge can flash straight over our trial software with no problems at all, any tuner that isn’t willing to invest money into the technology and knowledge to understand these processes should not be touching an emissions control unit in my opinion.
For more FAQ’s on our trial software please follow the link below:
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=free_trial_faq
I hope this helps!
--- End quote ---
E30Dom:
I take it Paramount performance aren't Revo dealers then? I would want a Revo main Agent check what they'd done, and at least have it rolling roaded elsewhere to check figures...
Dom
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