Why is everyone selling their car?!

[rich83]

       Standard   Revo
bhp         207            275
Torque    207            314

Thats REVO stage 1... pretty tuneable having a supercharger and turbocharger

... The 2.0T in the MK6 GTI isnt Twincharged... its just a 2.0 Turbo!

Is it k04 then?

Dont think so.. k03 of some varient i think!

[cmdrfire]

It's not a borg-warner turbocharger, so not a K04. The turbo is by ITT IIRC, it's smaller displacement than the K03s.

[Saint Steve]

Like the member above I bought mine new in March 08 and its time for a new one.I'm hanging on until next march due to the Tahoe adventure costing a bomb.Problem is I'm not totally sold on the MK6.I need to get in one,poke around a bit to whet my appetite.Until then I,m toying on moving to the 4 rings.

Does the mk6 have a k04 turbo? That would be a major factor for me.

In the Golf R is it not?

[cmdrfire]

Like the member above I bought mine new in March 08 and its time for a new one.I'm hanging on until next march due to the Tahoe adventure costing a bomb.Problem is I'm not totally sold on the MK6.I need to get in one,poke around a bit to whet my appetite.Until then I,m toying on moving to the 4 rings.

Does the mk6 have a k04 turbo? That would be a major factor for me.

In the Golf R is it not?

I made a post the other day about different engines in use, the Golf R uses an EA113 block (with a borg-warner turbo, k04) and the Mk6 GTI/Scirocco/et al use the new EA888 block which has a small displacement ITT turbo.

[alexperkins]

       Standard   Revo
bhp         207            275
Torque    207            314

Thats REVO stage 1... pretty tuneable having a supercharger and turbocharger

... The 2.0T in the MK6 GTI isnt Twincharged... its just a 2.0 Turbo!

The VW website says otherwise Rich  

2.0 TSI 210PS GTI
2.0 TSI 270PS Golf R

Not having a MK6 GTI I can only go on what I read 

[Hedge]

I made a post the other day about different engines in use, the Golf R uses an EA113 block (with a borg-warner turbo, k04) and the Mk6 GTI/Scirocco/et al use the new EA888 block which has a small displacement ITT turbo.

MK6 GTI uses a IHI turbo same like their Czech brothers in the vRS.
From searching the interwebs plus figures seen from mapped ones I would speculate it lies between the KO3 and KO4 as the one I drove had a touch of lag compared to a KO3. 

[cmdrfire]

^^^
Cheers Hedge. I knew it was I something or other Would be interesting to get the figures on it.

       Standard   Revo
bhp         207            275
Torque    207            314

Thats REVO stage 1... pretty tuneable having a supercharger and turbocharger

... The 2.0T in the MK6 GTI isnt Twincharged... its just a 2.0 Turbo!

The VW website says otherwise Rich  

2.0 TSI 210PS GTI
2.0 TSI 270PS Golf R

Not having a MK6 GTI I can only go on what I read 

"TSI" is a branding exercise for all new forced induction engines.

[rich83]

^^ What he said.

The mk6 GTI does say TSI on the engine cover etc etc... but its not twin charged and neither is the R

[alexperkins]

Silly VW 

[simonp]

Lots of confusion in here! Pretty sure tuners are getting nigh on (if not over) 300 ponies out of the GTI VI. Makes me wonder why the older engine got put in the R? I guess the E888 gets heavy on the carbons when the power gets upped?

[tony_danza]

Or, cynically they had a load of them lying around and it was already a direct swap from the S3's platform to make it easy.

[Janner_Sy]

being TSi doesnt make it twincharged.  the TSI can be either turbocharged or twincharged.  some of the 1.4TSI lumps are just single turbo.

Also the Golf R/Cupra R etc whilst saying TSI on the engine cover and in the brochure is not a TSI at all but a K04 TFSI as found in the S3.  you can tell that by the engine cover and relocated DV, amongst other things.

thw Golf GTI/octavia vRS 2.0TSI is a 2.0T with the turbo that hedge mentioned.  The engine is more tunable due to being more efficient but also having a much more efficient air intake and a much more powerful HPFP.  so no need for a stage 2+ HPFP remap.

The stage 1 2.0TSI cars  with REVO make pretty much the same as a stage 2 k03 TFSI.  When @ stage 2 they make around 280-300hp. so better for tuning.

[Snoopy]

More info and rolling road graph of a stage2 on the GTI mk6 on this LINK

[animal]

Lots of confusion in here! Pretty sure tuners are getting nigh on (if not over) 300 ponies out of the GTI VI. Makes me wonder why the older engine got put in the R? I guess the E888 gets heavy on the carbons when the power gets upped?

It was already developed for big power (S3/Cupra) so there was very little development work to be done. E888 might re-map to high power but it doesnt/can't meet tough VW durability standards or Euro emissions legislation with just tweaked calibration. Beefing up the EA888 wouldve taken time and money, effecting the margins on R sales. Simple solution, tweak an existing, proven technology. Job done.

Nothing to do with engines lying around, they dont build anything they dont need! EA113 is considered to be a pretty strong engine. Over-engineered infact. The EA888 is cheaper and easier to build, how strong it is, remains to be seen.

To add to the confusion, I'm pretty certain there are EA888 variants with K03 turbos as well.

[animal]

being TSi doesnt make it twincharged.  the TSI can be either turbocharged or twincharged.  some of the 1.4TSI lumps are just single turbo.

Also the Golf R/Cupra R etc whilst saying TSI on the engine cover and in the brochure is not a TSI at all but a K04 TFSI as found in the S3.  you can tell that by the engine cover and relocated DV, amongst other things.

thw Golf GTI/octavia vRS 2.0TSI is a 2.0T with the turbo that hedge mentioned.  The engine is more tunable due to being more efficient but also having a much more efficient air intake and a much more powerful HPFP.  so no need for a stage 2+ HPFP remap.

The stage 1 2.0TSI cars  with REVO make pretty much the same as a stage 2 k03 TFSI.  When @ stage 2 they make around 280-300hp. so better for tuning.

Also worth noting that a lot of standard MKVI GTIs are dyno-ing above 'factory' power out-put