Hi all and R.I.P my GTI!

[Rampage]

Is there an official Red Army here then? 

I'm just scared about the mechatronics going wrong. Are they really more economical than manuals in real life driving?

Cheers

[Saint Steve]

^^^ Yes and Yes

Im not the ring leader .......honest  

Dont get put off about reliability of DSG. The few cases of failures of mech's units are generally caught under warranty. Little or very few fail after long term ownership..

I cant remember a case of slipping clutches on an Ed30... Plenty remap manuals doing it though

[Jack Rabbit]

dsg = automatic =

[Saint Steve]

dsg = automatic =

Did you ask RedRobins permission before posting that Jack?  

He's one quick old chap  

Suprised hes not giving the famous "one Finger" salute at you though Jack

[Rampage]

Cheers guys, thanks for your input- really appreciate it.

P.s
I don't have the glasses, but I do have the cap! 

[Jack Rabbit]

 

[QD MBE]

^^^ Yes and Yes

Im not the ring leader .......honest  

Dont get put off about reliability of DSG. The few cases of failures of mech's units are generally caught under warranty. Little or very few fail after long term ownership..

I cant remember a case of slipping clutches on an Ed30... Plenty remap manuals doing it though

Bit mis-leading that Steve.

To the Op - Do your homework, a poorly maintained DSG box is a ticking bomb, also there seems to be no predictable nature to the failures, fairly new boxes fail, with the same annoying regularity of older higher miles boxes, there are some very high miles boxes that are still good, (I believe RR's Mech unit has been in for 80+k since it was replaced many moons ago) and some with no miles that are not so good. 

So check your service history, specifically the DSG history, google is your friend for further advice.  Also remember a DSG owner is likely to be biased towards their preference.  I Drive a manual, just prefer it, nothing against a DSG.

And my final bit of advice, think about a warranty, hate for it to go awry and you have to find it from your pocket.   

[Saint Steve]

Maintaince goes without saying ...

RR's failed before it's 1st service afaik..

Don't be put off by people that claim dsg mech's being a major issue when deciding whether to purchase or not.
Weigh up the pro's and Cons, and also do take note of what Real life owners say in what they think of dsg or S-tronic boxes.
Use the search function, there was a poll I posted with about failing mechs, which did seem to highlight cars in the 57/08 reg having more issues then others.
But what I can assure you, although QD says otherwise, it's not a Common problem to older cars, and that most had issues in manufactures warranty, less so out of warranty.

There was a dsg owners forum posted a while ago, but had little more then 20 members on as registered, with niggles, but again, not a forum with 100's of complaints.

Again, with any purchase of a car from a dealer or garage, a years warranty is normally given, which would cover you in the possible event of you buying a car with a faulty mech's, that the previous keeper didn't disclose.

in guess I've been lucky, having owned 4 dsg cars with not one single issue, but there is a case of a new owner on another forum, who's had a 2nd mechs fail, but again, under warranty.

Good luck with your search

it's a great car And even better in my opinion with DSG

Edit.....
Website in question...Not busy but have a look
http://www.dsgproblems.co.uk/

[QD MBE]

Steve, that's better.  

For the record, I have nothing against DSG, just like 'open and honest' advice.

I don't say there is a lot of failures, there are more failures than there should be, Plenty more than are displayed on this forum as the members on the forum tend to maintain their cars properly.  Must be something in it when VW USA give a 10 year transmission manufacturers warranty on DSG cars.

Again, to the OP do your homework.  Great box if you want a 'semi-auto, and if you do your homework and get a good one.

http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=dsg+problems

[Rampage]

Thanks for the sound and balanced advice fellas, good food for thought... and further research. Will check out the links.

Cheers

Rampage

[GLIDN]

Welcome,

and sorry to hear of the Fate of you prior TR GTI. It sounded like one seriously nice GTI. I too have a TR GTI in manual. But no leather.
Something I can add, I "owned" (was loaned an DSG GTI mk5) for about 7 weeks, while they were replacing my Mechatronics unit for the 5 times in only 4 months on my TDI golf.
I ended up with a Manual GTI in the long run. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy driving my GTI. I do miss the DSG thou. To the point that I'm seriously considering selling it and going to a DSG GTI.

Based on you not wanting to modify your car (I'm sorry I can't see that lasting to long). Go for Edition 30. You  can always add many option (accept sunroof etc.) to the car to make it as nice or better than your GTI was.

Maybe you should take a DSG GTI for a day or two from a yard. Drive it and see how you enjoy it? You might not like it at all which will make your decision far easier.

[QD MBE]

It seems that Mechatronics units are on back order circa 14 days wait.  

[alexperkins]

Some of the parts come from Japan when i checked with TPS last, so this could possibly have something to do with it.

[QD MBE]

A large company like VW should have enough stock, and from enough differing suppliers to prevent natural occurrences such as the Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami creating a large effect on parts/new car supplies.

The don't put all their eggs in one basket, except at the Vehicle/Gearbox manufacturing facility.

There have been rumblings of DSG shortages way before the earthquake.

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/381899/2604961.aspx

http://www.mytiguan.com/index.php?/topic/1568-delivery-date-shock/page__st__20

Again get a good one after doing your homework, and look after it, and I think you stand a good chance of it staying serviceable.

[Rampage]

Cheers fellas, just had a little play with a BMW auto in manual mode... I could get used to this... oh dear! Could very well be dsg after all. Also seen a few eddies for sale too. Oh my poor bank account...