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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2011, 03:38:59 pm »
Yes it is only the few rotten apples that spoil the otherwise untarnished barrel.  :wink:

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2011, 03:57:40 pm »
he was fair enough with me, i was more than ok with him, saw him 5minutes later with 3 bikers on the dual carridgeway by the red kite, which is where he pulled me, just up behind the new in pub, id come off the red kite round about

if i'd to rate his policing it would be around 6/10 just for his attitude at the start and asking how i could afford the car, when he didnt ask what my occupation was or anything

not sure just checked my wallet where i thought the ticket was and its not there, hope its at home.

will check my ticket when i find it at home, he was balled, white, about 6 ft2, medium build, mid 40's, grey 58reg 5 series estate

I bet it says 'D.Labourne'............

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2011, 04:19:46 pm »
Some police are right tossers, and others are really cool. I get pulled over say once every two weeks due to the car I drive and for the fact I look about 16 when in certain parts of London  (rougher).

Most of the officers are pretty cool actually, and there are a few who are right assholes for no reason. Suppose they are upset that I turn out not to be a drug dealer after getting their hopes up of "catching a criminal" .

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2011, 05:13:11 pm »
Trust no one in our job mate  :innocent:........seriously though some people give the job a bad name.


Shame really, as I defend police to the death, but then look at some of my colleagues and wouldn't trust them with a pen, let alone tazer/firearms.

Liver, again,backing upmy above comment and not being able to think that he has done wrong, there is no better feeling than for a police officer to get a result out of nothing, rather than being sent to a job, hence why he could have been taking so long with you, other  possibility, in my experience drink drivers/ no insurance / disqual drivers will not pull over if close to home as they think that once they are on their drive that they are safe and the car cannot be seized/ they cannot be arrested. (though he could have just been clueless, I  dunno!)

I do find it difficult doing this job at times, and sometimes find that the older generation look down at me, due to having a 29 year old and my partner who is 32 telling them things, as if I cannot pass wisdom on due to age.
But I also think that dealing with younger people is just as troublesome due to no one being able to stop them from doing  what they are doing until police become involved, and even then they know there is only so much can be done to stop them.

Dealt with an Indian male last week who wouldn't let us or his wife (who was leaving him due to problems stemming from an arranged marriage) into the house to collect her belongings, he was arrested and whilst in custody said he was making a complaint against us, the Inspector bargained with him, and the complaint was dropped on the condition he was released without charge. I was livid the day after, is that all you have to do to get away with crime nowadays!?! :surprised: :stupid:

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2011, 06:07:01 pm »
What are the issues around B'mouth? I lived there for two years without incident!  :grin:

Generally speaking, people these days are of the "consumer" type - they want xyz without abc, despite the fact that you can't. They want other "dangerous" drivers off the road, but get aggrieved if they get pulled over for doing something themselves.

The other problem is Govt and their stupid targets. Interpretation seems to be that pulling over motorists for offences generates higher figures than burglaries etc where time and effort is required. This is what's being spread by the media and the largely uninformed, general public lap it up like kittens to a saucer. Just as naive too.

I have never experienced (in 22+ years of being a police officer) such a disgusting attitude from people.
As above, they want the entire world fawning after them but when others need the attention, they kick up a fuss. Selfishness and lack of respect.

CSI and the like doesn't help people's expectations of what can be done in investigations
Judges and expert witnesses have often commented on public expectations which are fed by semi-fantasy shows such as CSI.

I am massively pro-Police.
+1. Wouldn't do their job!  :grin:

Unfortuately most people on have dealings with the police for two reasons.  They have either been the victim of a crime(and its not be addressed as quickly or as efficiently as one would like) or are being persued for committing one(without any suspicion of innocence!).
Personally, I think it's a case of he who shouts loudest gets heard. Hence, Mr Bloggs gets on the cover of the Daily Wail because the police didn't get catch a baddie, but the police don't get any mention when things go right.

Personally I find only the older generation respect the police for the most part. Partly because they were brought up when times were hard and you learnt to just get on with stuff and secondly because if you got cheeky with a copper you got a clip around the ear!
+1 for this too. The older generation were brought up more stoically rather than the whiny little brats that current society is. Completely agree that some degree of "come back" would help deal with it but it's not going to happen. Same with teachers being bullied by pupils and can't do anything to discipline them. Parents often expect everyone else to do their job for them!

Dealt with an Indian male last week
One of the worse, and you can't call me racist! There are big issues with patriarchal family systems which just do not work IMO, especially in this country.

Of the one time I had to deal with the Police, it was fine, though a bit puzzling. If any of you know the Shell garage by the university in Southampton, you'll know it's right next to campus and next to some traffic lights. I pulled out and did so a little quick because the lights had just changed and traffic was oncoming. Didn't fancy waiting five minutes until it'd calmed down. Right at the front was a police van. I turned into the campus and the van kept following. Thought "oh $hit!" and turned to cut through some buildings to head to the houses at the back of the university. Van followed me down and I thought they're definitely following me. Pulled me up at the top of my road and they thought I'd pulled out a bit fast from the petrol station. My insurance had just been renewed and they couldn't pick it up on the MID. They were going to give me a producer but I asked if they'd follow me home and I could give them the documents. They were happy with this. No other problems and they were very polite throughout. Was just a bit frustrated since I was in a 1.25 fiesta at the time! But they were very courteous and professional so can't really complain.

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2011, 06:08:35 pm »
Trust no one in our job mate  :innocent:........seriously though some people give the job a bad name.


Shame really, as I defend police to the death, but then look at some of my colleagues and wouldn't trust them with a pen, let alone tazer/firearms.

Liver, again,backing upmy above comment and not being able to think that he has done wrong, there is no better feeling than for a police officer to get a result out of nothing, rather than being sent to a job, hence why he could have been taking so long with you, other  possibility, in my experience drink drivers/ no insurance / disqual drivers will not pull over if close to home as they think that once they are on their drive that they are safe and the car cannot be seized/ they cannot be arrested. (though he could have just been clueless, I  dunno!)

I do find it difficult doing this job at times, and sometimes find that the older generation look down at me, due to having a 29 year old and my partner who is 32 telling them things, as if I cannot pass wisdom on due to age.
But I also think that dealing with younger people is just as troublesome due to no one being able to stop them from doing  what they are doing until police become involved, and even then they know there is only so much can be done to stop them.

Dealt with an Indian male last week who wouldn't let us or his wife (who was leaving him due to problems stemming from an arranged marriage) into the house to collect her belongings, he was arrested and whilst in custody said he was making a complaint against us, the Inspector bargained with him, and the complaint was dropped on the condition he was released without charge. I was livid the day after, is that all you have to do to get away with crime nowadays!?! :surprised: :stupid:

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2011, 07:20:45 pm »
This is a societal issue, and not a policing issue.

With increasingly dismissive attitudes towards society (and those who protect and enforce the laws of the society - the police) and with an increasingly disassociative government (both the preceding Labour government and the current government) attempting to micromanage everything in an attempt to blame someone but assign no responsiblity to anyone it is hardly surprising that 1) the police feel under pressure to perform and 2) as a result of this there are incidences of heavy-handed policing and/or incompetent policing (or at least, those two points were always present but with considerably greater media attention today).

With regards to society and acting as a good citizen, I think it is indefensible not to support the police for the greater part, point 2 above notwithstanding.

And with that all said, quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2011, 08:47:15 am »


I bet it says 'D.Labourne'............
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doesnt say his name, just a signature that i can't make out


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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2011, 09:23:35 am »


I bet it says 'D.Labourne'............


doesnt say his name, just a signature that i can't make out


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:surprised: Should have name and number? It maybe didn't come through on the carbon copy or something. Never mind.

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2011, 09:28:30 am »
possible way of getting out of the ticket? lol

carbon copy he had to write out again on the actual ticket that i have due to none of it coming through

no name or police number on it

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2011, 10:05:32 am »
It depends what ticket you were given to be honest mate.

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2011, 10:19:12 am »
offence i think was a 309

long ticket like with tear part at bottom with number to ring and stated fine

top was my details then car details

none on middle was filled out then just above the tear off part was his signature and where he is based etc

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 10:42:28 am »
I'll have a check tomorrow to see if they have changed the format. I don't often give out tickets as I'm a nice copper so they might have changed or I could be wrong?

Will check it out tomorrow for ya but you still wouldn't get off with it. You'd just go to court and end up paying more for trying to get out of it.

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2011, 10:44:29 am »
i'll just pay then

would have been nice to get out of lol

i nearly didnt have a ticket, put the joggers i had on in the wash and luckily realised i didnt have my ticket and managed to check the pockets before they went in the washer. what would have happened if id have washed them or lost it?

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Re: Police reforms and revenge Bournemouth 2011
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2011, 11:25:55 am »

i nearly didnt have a ticket, put the joggers i had on in the wash and luckily realised i didnt have my ticket and managed to check the pockets before they went in the washer. what would have happened if id have washed them or lost it?

cheers

Not sure to be honest. You'd probably be able to trace the ticket through the the system and get the reference number so you could pay it.