Carbon Wings - Feeler for GB....

[danishmkvgti]

Reg. the inner lining, as i see it there is 2 apparent solutions:

1. buy an extra set and use the outer part to widen the original ones.
2. find a good plastic welder and slice the ones you have in the middle and fit a strip of similar plastic into the gap.

On the CF wings the is not made ears to fit the inner lining so what is achieved by the above is the inner lining resting inside the CF wing

And reg, the bumper/fender joint, you wil get a small edge on top of the bumper that is visible as it is pulled the 10mm outat the edge of the wheel arch, i have tried to capture it on these photos.

[RedRobin]

Re the inner lining, as i see it there is 2 apparent solutions:

1. buy an extra set and use the outer part to widen the original ones.
2. find a good plastic welder and slice the ones you have in the middle and fit a strip of similar plastic into the gap.

On the CF wings the is not made ears to fit the inner lining so what is achieved by the above is the inner lining resting inside the CF wing

And re, the bumper/fender joint, you will get a small edge on top of the bumper that is visible as it is pulled the 10mm out at the edge of the wheel arch, i have tried to capture it on these photos.

....My bodyshop has a good plastic welder and an attitude that they can do anything that's needed, so subject to their advice I'd probably do option 2.

Thanks for those photos, Jake - I'm going to need a long chat with my bodyshop to see if anything can be done about that.

[simonp]

That looks horrible. I'd rather get steel again than have that alignment issue if it was me looking to buy.

[danishmkvgti]

That looks horrible. I'd rather get steel again than have that alignment issue if it was me looking to buy.

  ETTO, but i get your meaning. The reasoning for me was get the extra 10mm 

[Poppa Dom]

Yes Simon, agreed. Having seen those pics i am not so sure now. I don't need an extra 10mm 

[Carrera2RS]

Anyone tried rollingnthe arch and modifying the liner if the weight saving isn't an objective ?

Seems that most ofmthe clearance issue is the liner ?

[rex]

RR, will they ship to Romania (very important to me)?

What I do not like about these fenders is the fact that they are not a perfect fit  .

There are some other aftermarket fenders like Kerscher (http://www.kerscher-tuning.de/styling/index.php?marke=VW&typ=Golf+5+%281K%29&gruppe=Kotfl%FCgel+%2F+Seitenteile) but I am not sure if these fit better or how much clearance they have. I also don't know German to well so I can't read the pdf in the link.

[RedRobin]

Anyone tried rollingnthe arch and modifying the liner if the weight saving isn't an objective ?

Seems that most of the clearance issue is the liner ?

....Modifying the arch and cracking the paint is what has given me the rust problem.

[rich83]

But if you get the arches pulled (not just rolled) by 10mm and then painted you'd be sorted.

[RedRobin]

RR, will they ship to Romania (very important to me)?

What I do not like about these fenders is the fact that they are not a perfect fit  .

There are some other aftermarket fenders like Kerscher (http://www.kerscher-tuning.de/styling/index.php?marke=VW&typ=Golf+5+%281K%29&gruppe=Kotfl%FCgel+%2F+Seitenteile) but I am not sure if these fit better or how much clearance they have. I also don't know German to well so I can't read the pdf in the link.

....Yes they will ship to Romania.

I don't think those Kerscher wings are carbon but they would appear to be a good alternative as long as they fit well! They're a similar price to carbon though: €650 = £565. Kerscher have a couple of UK distributors but one of them has a bad reputation in the VW community. I'll see what I can find out.

I'm going to call my bodyshop later today too and have a chat about what might be done about that poor fit. I'll also call Carnoisseur about it as they are in regular contact with Seibon.

Looks like a busy day for me. I don't have time to work!

[RedRobin]

But if you get the arches pulled (not just rolled) by 10mm and then painted you'd be sorted.
 

....You're perhaps forgetting that there is rust damage to be repaired and to do that professionally will cost me over £400 (incl paint). The question then is whether that repair will stop the issue occurring again sometime in the future. I'd still have the costs of modifying the liner due to the 10mm gap. But yes, it is an option.

[rex]

Yes, you are right. Those are not carbon. But that is not that important to me. If they fit well, and have another 10mm than I will not bother with the Seibon ones.

By the way... what is the weight reduction if I use Seibon carbon wings?
I know that the Seibon Carbon hood is not quite carbon and the weight reduction is about 4kg. By using VWR hood (which is real carbon) the weight reduction is 10kg!!
If the fenders are not that light than it is not worth paying extra just for the top carbon (and fiber glass underneath).

[RedRobin]

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I've just had a chat with my bodyshop boss and he can roll my arches as a favour within the price he's given me for repair and paint as he has a machine.

He says that having even a 10mm gap in the wheel arch liners is of little consequence so not worth modding though he can do if I want. Jake, are you seeing any problems such as excessive dirt from having the gap?

Re the Seibon carbon option he says that we must obviously retain the ability to remove the front bumper and the fit will have to be what it will be but obviously they'll fiddle best they can as they did with my carbon bonnet fit. Though not the cheapest they're guys I know quite well and can trust and they usually don't charge me for what they might have to do as extra.

Comparing Jakes night time with daytime pics I'm wondering if the camera flashlight and shadows make the fit look far worse than it is.... Jake?

Now off to speak with Carnoisseur/Seibon........

[RedRobin]

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Carnoisseur are going to contact Seibon today about the fit question and get back to me. Apparently Seibon aren't usually quick in replying. I'll report accordingly.

[danishmkvgti]

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Carnoisseur are going to contact Seibon today about the fit question and get back to me. Apparently Seibon aren't usually quick in replying. I'll report accordingly.

  I wrote Seibon last year regarding the poor fitment,,,,  No reply yet 

The inner lining is the big problem regarding rubbing. In my case i must conclude that 235/35-19 for track use when TT mk 2 lower control arms is fitted and with the car to low is not a good idea







So i might need a new set myself