Worth fitting K57i intake with stage 1 TSI?

[daz_pd]

Hey all, recently went stage 1 with my 2.0 TSI, I have a k57i induction kit here also, would it be worth fitting? Was going to buy a new intake but times are hard, lol!

 Can anyone recommend a heat shield? And would someone with a 2.0 TSI and intake be kind enough to measure the length and width of the silicone pipe that connects the intake and MAF together

[Janner_Sy]

is yours a mk5 or mk6 golf?

[daz_pd]

VRS Octy 

[Janner_Sy]

what age vRS is it? Just wandering if you have the TFSI or TSI as the newer version say TSI etc but are actually TFSI etc.

Ignoring the lettering on these which engine cover do you have



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Me personnaly i wouldnt fit a K&N on my car. IMO they are just a generic intake.  Id prefer a bespoke kit.  I was given a pipercross(i also consider these a generic intake) venom from a guy on briskoda and that lost me power over the std intake

[daz_pd]

you got our wires crossed there bud, the brochure etc still says TFSI, but the 2.0 Engine in my FL Octavia is infact a 2.0 TSI, same as a MK6 GTI and some later MK5 also.
hmmm, do have an ITG panel here, maybe ill pop that in while I save for either the Carbonspeed or ITG intake.....

[Janner_Sy]

Just checking as lots of guys think they have the TSI engines but dont.  The new face lift cupra is the same.  The engine cover says TSI as does the brochure, but they still have the k04 TFSI

[56OctyVRS]

Just looked at the TSi airbox in that picture.  Thats a sharp bend the air has to go round from the scoop onto the airbox.  Why couldnt they just have a straight pipe in to the air box?  Id prefer the TFSI air box design over the TSI as it isnt that bad a design, just more niggly to remove to change the air filter. Plus there are many cars on here that are high bhp with the standard air box fitted.  Id just go with a panel air filter and keep the factory system fitted.  You wont notice a great deal of difference in the performance with a K03 and not one that is going to be miles quicker than standard! I didnt when I had one fitted to mine and it actually felt like it had lost low end torque so I refitted the engine cover.

[Hedge]

Er it's still not a Ko3. 

[wigit]

on tsi i'd go evoms, itg, or forge twintake 

[daz_pd]

yeah, think Ill sell off the K&N, dont really fancy an open filter, the carbon speed one also seems good. same as the Carbonio.

[Janner_Sy]

Just looked at the TSi airbox in that picture.  Thats a sharp bend the air has to go round from the scoop onto the airbox.  Why couldnt they just have a straight pipe in to the air box?  Id prefer the TFSI air box design over the TSI as it isnt that bad a design, just more niggly to remove to change the air filter. Plus there are many cars on here that are high bhp with the standard air box fitted.  Id just go with a panel air filter and keep the factory system fitted.  You wont notice a great deal of difference in the performance with a K03 and not one that is going to be miles quicker than standard! I didnt when I had one fitted to mine and it actually felt like it had lost low end torque so I refitted the engine cover.

You couldnt be more wrong about the std airbox on the TFSI.  very very restrictive with most guys gaining at least 10hp when running stock map with guys who are mapped making 15-20hp gains.  If anything the K03 requires the intake more than the K04 because it struggles more

[56OctyVRS]

10bhp to me is not a great gain and nothing you would notice on the road. Perhaps half a second if that!   I know its not the best designed air box but its not that bad and the ED30s seem to produce good bhp and torque with a simple remap.  I know to get max power the CAI is a must but I tune my car as a fast road car and not a track day car, as I do not use WOT all the time.  With the CAI I had to use more revs to get the car to go as the low end torque was gone.  It revved more eagerly at the top end but I dont use that end much, only to pass other vehicles but there is plenty of low/mid range grunt still.  The CAI didnt suit my day to day driving requirements.   

[Janner_Sy]

10bhp to me is not a great gain and nothing you would notice on the road. Perhaps half a second if that!   I know its not the best designed air box but its not that bad and the ED30s seem to produce good bhp and torque with a simple remap.  I know to get max power the CAI is a must but I tune my car as a fast road car and not a track day car, as I do not use WOT all the time.  With the CAI I had to use more revs to get the car to go as the low end torque was gone.  It revved more eagerly at the top end but I dont use that end much, only to pass other vehicles but there is plenty of low/mid range grunt still.  The CAI didnt suit my day to day driving requirements.  

The K04 has a much stronger turbo so it can overcome the restriction much easier than the K03 turbo.  but the intake is not just a peak Hp gain.

this is RRs stock Vs twintake on his revo car thats a 10-15hp gain from 3500rm onwards so exactly where you say you want the power.  Its also arund 20lbft stronger from 3500-redline.  Your right that the torque builds up later but only below 2500rpm, which will help with traction anyway

[wigit]

CAI aren't just about peak numbers but across the range

[56OctyVRS]

I know CAI are much better by design but I didnt find it worked for my driving style.  I tend to use the torque and monitored my driving yesterday.  I drive around 1500rpm to 3000rpm and only venture higher into the rev range to overtake, so a CAI for me is pointless as I would not use the extra bit of power given by them. Plus I dont really like the noise they make with these engines.  Nothing like the noise my FRS made, that sounded like a banshee when on WOT  but I think thats down to the small VVT turbos these car use why they sound differrent.  Ive heard the ITG maxogen on these engines and it came no where near to the noise produced by my FRS.  Fond memories!