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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2009, 02:28:10 pm »
a few teams have been doing a few aero tweaks in light of the diffuser issue


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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2009, 07:11:23 pm »
Is that Ralf Schumacher driving?  :signLOL:

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2009, 07:13:25 pm »
I wish they would get rid of the two tyre compound rule   :sad: :sad: :sad:
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« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2009, 01:11:45 pm »
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Ahh no way!!  made the last few laps exciting.  Although im sure that more teams will end up choosing the same compound for the same sessions.  Unless the field spread is reduced this year, having a dis-advantage at the start is worse that the latter parts of the race.
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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2009, 10:32:56 am »
great....lewis hamilton disqualified from the auzzie GP!!!!

what a joke!!

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2009, 10:39:29 am »
Hamilton loses Aussie GP points 
 
Trulli (front) was passed by Hamilton (back) when he slid off the track
Lewis Hamilton and McLaren have been stripped of their podium finish and all points at the Australian Grand Prix.

The sport's world governing body said they were excluded "for providing evidence deliberately misleading to the stewards at the hearing on 29 March".

A post-race hearing promoted Hamilton from fourth to third after Trulli was penalised for passing the Englishman while the safety car was out.

Trulli and Toyota have been reinstated to third place.

The Italian was initially handed a 25-second penalty for the incident which saw him demoted to 12th.

Hamilton was summoned by stewards on Thursday to discuss what the FIA, motorsport's governing body, described as "a new element" of evidence.

It was not clear what the new evidence was, although it was thought to involve pit-to-car radio conversations between the team and driver, with the FIA ruling that there had been a breach of the international sporting code

The yellow safety flags came out at Melbourne after a collision between Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel and Robert Kubica in his BMW Sauber.

Trulli slid off the track and was passed by Hamilton but the Toyota driver said he had little choice but to overtake the Briton again.

 606: DEBATE
As the stewards messed up in the first place by punishing Trulli, surely the best thing to do would be to reclassify Trulli as 3rd and Hamilton 4th?

Tom
"When the safety car came out towards the end of the race, Hamilton passed me but soon after he suddenly slowed down and pulled over to the side of the road," he said.

"I thought he had a problem so I overtook him as there was nothing else I could do."

Hamilton had told Speed TV after the race that Trulli went wide onto the grass at the second to last corner.

"I was forced to go by. I slowed down as much as I could. I was told to let him back past, I don't know if that's the regulations, and if it isn't, then I should have really had third," said the Briton.

Toyota had said after the race that they would make a protest but dropped that on Wednesday because they felt it had no chance of succeeding.

 

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2009, 10:51:21 am »
I cant believe this, its a joke! its killing the sport!

they make so much effort to change the reg to make it a good watch, and then they just shift the goal posts massively!

its taken 4 days to try and please ferrari!

thats what its all to do with!!

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2009, 10:57:19 am »
that is a joke...thought they where supposed to be having better clarity around the sport and less problems with the stewards.

Might as well make them all draw straws at this rate and forget racing.


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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2009, 11:00:53 am »


Might as well make them all draw straws at this rate and forget racing.



good point well said!!

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2009, 11:02:31 am »
I cannot believe this what so ever! Looks like its going to be another year when Hamilton not only has to beat the competitors on the race track but also the FIA (Ferrari International Assistance).

Lets all hope this does not dishearten Lewis or kill the sport.
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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2009, 11:10:16 am »
if i was lewis, id feel like fooking the sport off alltogether.


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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2009, 02:00:51 pm »
It is making a mockery of the sport (again) before the season has had the chance to get started!

Fully agree with you Jay that Fiat must of had something to do with this!  :angry015:

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2009, 02:10:26 pm »
I am a big fan of both Lewis and McLaren but this cant be blaimed on ferrai, Toyota or anyone else.  Im am sure i will full understand come saturday (when they go over and over again about what happened) but it seems to me that they have tried to pull the wool over the stewards eyes.

I think that it is easy to blame the FIA (heaven knows they have given good reason for us to) but there is are many issues around McLaren and other teams to think that they are squeeky clean ALL the time.  You would think that they would be an open book when it comes to any stewards enquriey.  If they diddnt think of sharing this "new information" at the time of the investigation then they should have done and they deserve a penalty....when will they learn
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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2009, 02:18:36 pm »
With all the TV camera's around the circuit how come it has taken them 3-4 days to come to the conclusion.

It makes a mokery as we go their watching what is a thrilling race to then watch the news next day and the result is different.

All this money is spent on TV cemera's can they not get 1 or 2 people to watch the various screens and watch what is going on.  I'll do it for them if they pay my same wage and travel expenses  :grin:

Even during the race they where slow to react to what was going - 2-3 laps to delopy first saftey car when it was obvious he would be out.  Then they picked up vettel even though button came out the pits so his tires got stone cold while they burnt round for 2-3 laps to catch-up

I'm all for punishment where desereved but the decisions need to made quicker and better as Vettel having 10 grid penlty is crazy was a 50;50 racing incident, why do we need to wait until 7 Apr on the diffusers they knew this was going to be an issuer (or at least the world did) why not have all the people on melbourne present on thrusday before hand and have this issue sorted so everyone knows what the result will be.

I love F1 but the stewards are driving me crazy and making me think twice about paying money to watch it if all they did is amend results later.

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #59 on: April 03, 2009, 10:40:54 am »
Agreed on the time it takes for decission to be made.. they even showen the race controll room before the race and it have 10 / 15 people in it, thats probably the problem..........too many points of View
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