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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #210 on: November 02, 2009, 09:13:14 am »
Bring on F1 in HD :happy2:

pull your finger out then, my sky man!

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« Reply #211 on: November 02, 2009, 09:26:22 am »
bring on Suzi Perry for the presenter job  :happy2:  :notworthy:  :pomppomp:  :drool:
next season could be really dull with no pit stops!
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« Reply #212 on: November 02, 2009, 05:44:37 pm »
no pit stops?  :chicken:

or just no refueling?  :innocent:

next season is set to be brilliant if the drivers shuffle to the right teams  :smiley:

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« Reply #213 on: November 02, 2009, 05:52:16 pm »
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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #214 on: November 02, 2009, 06:14:38 pm »
i cant wait for fueling to be taken out of the equasion

20 heavily laden cars all flying into the initial corners of a 55 lap race...its going to end in tears!...superb TV. should mean an end to the parade lap racing

showboaters run out of fuel. fact.  :grin: that will sort the men from the boys too

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« Reply #215 on: November 03, 2009, 12:16:54 pm »
Im not sure on this re fuelling ban.  I am assuming that quali will be done in the same way except in the final session will be cars with the same fuel.  i think that this could lead to a more processional race as there will be little variaiton in the cars strategy.

I just think that there was a reason they brough it in in the first place......

personally i think they had ther right idea this year but diddnt quite go for it enough.  less aero and more mechanical grip.  The engineers will always pull some back but there has to be a way.  I remember reading a repot on a proposed aero set-up where the air was forced towards the path of a following car giving them a 'boost' it they got within 1 sec..... i think it was rejected because it gave the car behind an advantage, not sure why they feel giving a possible quicker car behind a dis advantage is better though!!
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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #216 on: November 13, 2009, 01:16:29 pm »
Lets hope Brawn can show the big car manufacturers the way next year too, he is a genius...
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« Reply #217 on: November 13, 2009, 04:26:25 pm »
No doubting Ross's credentials.  He has won everywhere he is gone.

Hopefully they have finances to go for it.  The news coming out from them they started in the summer on 2010 car on the 2009 car was flawed due to the late engine change to mercedes.

I'm hoping it is ferrari V Mclaren V Red Bull V Brawn would be good to see a 4 way titanic battle

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« Reply #218 on: November 16, 2009, 10:26:08 am »
Supposadly MBZ have bought a 75% stake in Brawn, to be confirmed / revealed this week.

Poor Jense, nobody wants him!

Wouldnt surprise me if he does more to McLaren afterall, even if its just for the sake of No 1 on the cars for the sponsors. Reports suggest Vodafone have told Macca to sign Jense.

All this is if planetf1 is to believed of course!

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #219 on: November 16, 2009, 11:58:41 am »
MERCEDES CONFIRM BRAWN TAKE-OVER

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #220 on: November 16, 2009, 12:08:31 pm »
Good spot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8362295.stm

Jenson looks to be ousted as well.

Wonder what will happen with the mcalren partniship

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #221 on: November 16, 2009, 12:37:35 pm »
German car giant Mercedes-Benz has taken over Brawn GP, it was announced on Monday. Mercedes engines powered Brawn to victory in both 2009 championships and the team will now be rebranded as Mercedes' works squad for 2010, with Ross Brawn remaining as team principal.

Mercedes will also continue to supply long-term partners McLaren with engines until at least 2015, but the company’s 40 percent shareholding in the team will be reacquired by McLaren over the next two years...

Good spot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8362295.stm

Jenson looks to be ousted as well.

Wonder what will happen with the mcalren partniship


FULL STATEMENT ON MCLAREN-MERCEDES DEAL
Monday 16th November 2009


Full statement from McLaren after they realigned their long-term strategic alliance with Mercedes.

'McLaren and Mercedes-Benz are delighted to announce a realigned long-term strategic alliance.

'The agreement covers the next six Formula 1 seasons (2010-15) and also provides mechanisms whereby the partnership may continue beyond 2015.

'The reaffirmation of the two companies' commitment to each other is the result of many weeks of careful and co-operative discussion between the McLaren Group and Daimler AG (the parent companies of, respectively, McLaren Racing and Mercedes-Benz) and covers both parties' continued involvement in the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Formula 1 partnership as well as a shared intention to act in the overall best interests of the sport of Grand Prix racing. It also reflects the independent vision of both companies with regard to their automotive production strategies.'

'The realigned long-term strategic alliance is reflected in three principal resolutions, as follows:

Mercedes-Benz: to power McLaren's Formula 1 cars until 2015

'Having begun in 1995, the McLaren/Mercedes-Benz partnership is already one of the longest engine-supply associations in Formula 1 history; 2009 was its 15th consecutive year and 2015 will be its 21st consecutive year, by which time it will have become by some margin the longest such association in Formula 1 history. Both the McLaren Group and Daimler AG were therefore committed to securing its continuation as part of a realigned long-term strategic alliance, and to have provided mechanisms whereby the partnership may continue beyond 2015. The team will continue to be known as Vodafone McLaren Mercedes, its distinctive silver-with-red livery will remain unchanged, and Mercedes-Benz will continue as both an engine supplier and a partner.'

McLaren Group: to purchase Daimler AG's 40 per cent shareholding

'In a transaction structured so as to be completed by 2011, the McLaren Group will undertake a phased purchase of the 40 per cent shareholding currently owned by Daimler AG. As a result, the McLaren Group will become a fully independent stand-alone corporate entity.'

McLaren Automotive: spun out of the McLaren Group

'The McLaren Group will continue as the parent company of McLaren Racing (and Vodafone McLaren Mercedes), McLaren Marketing, McLaren Electronic Systems, McLaren Applied Technologies and McLaren Electronics Inc (USA), focusing chiefly on Formula 1 and associated technologies, while McLaren Automotive has been spun out of the McLaren Group and from 2011 will begin to manufacture its own range of high-performance production sports cars, targeted to penetrate a series of meticulously-selected premium automotive market segments. As such, McLaren Automotive will continue to develop according to a robust business strategy that has been formulated with McLaren's customary prudence and rigour. The McLaren Group and McLaren Automotive will continue to evolve in line with their respective business strategies, and may in time adopt slightly different shareholder groupings, but they will always share a common goal: to be the best in the world in their respective fields.'

Ron Dennis (Executive Chairman, McLaren Automotive; Founding Shareholder, McLaren Group) said: "This is a win-win situation, for both McLaren and Daimler.

"I've often stated that it's my belief that, in order to survive and thrive in 21st-century Formula 1, a team must become much more than merely a team. That being the case, in order to develop and sustain the revenue streams required to compete and win Grands Prix and World Championships, companies that run Formula 1 teams must broaden the scope of their commercial activities.

"Nonetheless, all of our partners will of course continue to play a crucial role in our Formula 1 programme. For that reason, and because the engines they produce are very competitive, we're delighted that Mercedes-Benz has committed to continue not only as an engine supplier but also as a partner of ours until 2015 - and perhaps thereafter.

"The next few years will be a very exciting time for McLaren, during which period we intend to become an ever-stronger technological and economic force. Formula 1 will always be a core activity, for sound business reasons as well as for historical sporting reasons: to be clear, our Formula 1 business has traditionally enjoyed great financial security, largely as a consequence of the longevity of our contracts with our partners, many of which have exceeded 15 years of continuous involvement with McLaren. Indeed, two of our partners have been with us for more than 25 years.

"We're risk-averse by design. Over the past two years we've analysed in great detail the challenge of entering the high-performance production sports car market. In the MP4-12C, which will be introduced to market in 2011, we have a car that has inherited the genes of the iconic McLaren F1 of 1994 and has already been the subject of much global media acclaim. It is proposed that it will be produced in a new state-of-the-art production facility adjacent to the existing award-winning McLaren Technology Centre at Woking [Surrey, UK]."



Sources: Planetf1.com and formula1.com


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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #222 on: November 16, 2009, 12:43:18 pm »
Good spot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8362295.stm

Jenson looks to be ousted as well.

Wonder what will happen with the mcalren partniship


Id be surprised if he doesnt end up driving for McLaren. Cant say i particularly want him, think i'd rather have kimi given the success of the team and chance of winning WCC's / WDC's

Button must be worth his £8m he's asking for to many teams though, even if only for the sake of number one on the car to keep the sponsors happy!

I could be wrong, but this massively says to me that Ross realises Jensons not that good, it was only his lucky diffuser giving him his title. Coupled with the fact of course, that he's allowing MBZ to do the hiring and firing, as its their team now

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #223 on: November 16, 2009, 03:34:55 pm »
I could be wrong, but this massively says to me that Ross realises Jensons not that good, it was only his lucky diffuser giving him his title. Coupled with the fact of course, that he's allowing MBZ to do the hiring and firing, as its their team now

Ste

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Re: ****** FORMULA 1 THREAD ******
« Reply #224 on: November 16, 2009, 05:19:24 pm »
You not fancy F1 jonny or is the route youve choosen made it hard to adjust?
I know they are totally different cars etc just interested in the platform.