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[Poverty]

vettels a twat!

[vRS Carl]

Happy with that.

Chuffed Alonso spun out. 

Congrats Hamilton

[T88OMM]

Great drive from Hamilton, best race of the season imo 

[Janner_Sy]

what a race, probably the most overtaking of any race this season. 

vettel=no points, alonso =DNF, which = me chuffed to fook. felt bad for button, he'd have been 3rd.  greta drige from hamilton, although my heart was in mouth when he went off , and for the last few laps they couldnt have gone quick enough

[RedRobin]

^^^^
Vettel isn't a twat, he's just an impetuous and relatively inexperienced driver at the F1 level and I'm sure he'll mature and come good in due course just as Lewis has done. At least he apologised and didn't blame Jenson, unlike some drivers would have done.

I felt gutted for Jenson and delighted for Lewis and very happy about Alonso going off and Massa finishing ahead.

Sorry too for Rubens on his 300th... Such a great guy 

Overall, a great race and a great season so far.

[Janner_Sy]

i remember thinking after the bahrain race, that this season was going to be crap.  how wrong was i      absolutely awesome.

i think next season vettel could be in for the title, but he needs to come second to webber in the team at the end of the season, i think he'll learn alot from that. 

id rate hamilton, vettel and alonso as the best drivers followed by webber, button, kubica and massa.  in that order.

I'd say vettel and hamilton are very even in ability, as are button and webber.  biut massa. i do believe lacks what the others have.  he has to many off days.

[RobH]

The thing with Alonso is, its all well been in front but when hes put under pressure he looses control of himself an makes more mistakes, not the making of a good driver imo.
Also hes a blatant cheat and a whinging little baby that gets everything put on a plate for him!

If you look at Hamilton hes gone in the opposite direction and now keeps cool when under pressure, Vettel should take note on that and also learn to pass cars without crashing into them.

[T88OMM]

The thing with Alonso is, its all well been in front but when hes put under pressure he looses control of himself an makes more mistakes, not the making of a good driver imo.
Also hes a blatant cheat and a whinging little baby that gets everything put on a plate for him!

If you look at Hamilton hes gone in the opposite direction and now keeps cool when under pressure, Vettel should take note on that and also learn to pass cars without crashing into them.

Well said 

[vRS Carl]

That's why i don't agree that Vettel is in the Same league as Hamilton, Webber or Button.

He is ok when he is in the front. But as soon as he is in a position which requires him to overtake he can't do it. He has a lot to learn and i think a lot of his success is down to just how good that RedBull car is.

I don't disagree that he has natural talent. But he needs time to develop that talent and learn how to overtake and to compose himself whilst under pressure. At the moment he just see's the Red Mist and puts himself in a position which more often than not hurts another driver as well as himself.

I did like his attempt at humour though with Brundle before the start of the Race though.

MB " So Sebastien how is the Car "
SV " It's Blue and has 4 Wheels "

 

[Poverty]

Sorry lads, but vettel is one of the better drivers, but hes not one of the best. Take away the car and we would have someone with mediocre results.

Hamilton, alonso, kubica, and to absent raikonnen. Great drivers.

[vRS Carl]

Which is what i said 

[RobH]

Call it biased but hamilton is the best driver out of them all by quite a margin, he can do it all and is quality when overtaking people by a big margin. Hes bossed alonso at mclaren and now doing the same to button and is only getting better.

Vettel is very good in front but carnt overtake to save his life after 2 incidents today and the crash with webber earlier in the season proves this.

Massa is not paticulary good compared to the rest at the top and thats about it.

Button is quality and very smooth and effortless but comes across as a bit of a wet sponge when its time to overtake and just seems to sit behind the guy for an age (apart from the last race of last season when he went mental).

Alonso has lost his rag and hes borderline dangerous.

Kubica is a good driver and would be interesting to see what he can do with a good car.

Webber is hard to explain hes a bit like button, good at everything but just not as good as hamilton.

I think this season would be over if Hamilton was driving one of the Redbulls.

This is all my opinion of course

[RedRobin]

^^^^
I very much agree with your opinion, Rob 

[Janner_Sy]

i agree with all bar one part there

/Vettel is very good in front but carnt overtake to save his life

he might have had some incidents today, and when he hit webber, but that guy is very good at overtaking.  id say him, alonso and hamilto are the best 3 for overtaking.  

[vRS Carl]

I cant recall a race were Vettel did well at overtaking. You can't really say Hungary as he was just passing slower cars on straights.