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Offline Carrera2RS

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VWR brakes, very disappointed, but hoping to feel better !
« on: July 18, 2011, 05:54:37 pm »
My story so far....

I have waited for a long time, I cant remember how long but months to get a set from VWR, they were delivered to Simpson Motorsport.

I took today off to get them fitted, not a good start, no instructions, a chip on the paint, no washers where Simpson say there should be. The bolts not plated, but.....

No matter they are cheaper than AP and the guys know what they are doing, in the bays sit, 3 BMW CSL's, two Brit cars, two Z4s with cages, buckets and track tyres and two F40's and my Golf ! All others having much more serious stuff undertaken, I am in safe hands.

Problem 1. The calipers were built upside down ! The piston order was wrong, Simpson said this way round could cause binding. Again no matter simply dissasemble pipes and swap round.
Problem 2. They were built an and overtightened assembled with no copper slip, but the guys did sort one caliper in reediness for fitment
Problem 3. They don't fit ! They hit the backplate, no instructions, so backplate off. They also hit the bottom ball joint.
Problem 4. At each interval Simpson phone to let them know about the assembly issue in case they are sent out and installed by less experienced people, to find if the backplates should be removed, to discuss the clearance problem, they are racing.......no one home that can help.

Quick measurements highlight the problem, the inner face of the brake disc sits 8mm further in than stock, this is about the total clearance. If they did clear then the caliper did not appear to mount centrally around the disc.

Possibly incorrect machining of the bells I have waited weeks for. I have paid Simpson for the brakes and work as it is not there problem and they have paid VWR

£110 plus vat in labour a day waisted, no brakes and no answers, VERY UNIMPRESSED  :fighting:
« Last Edit: July 20, 2011, 05:40:55 pm by Carrera2RS »

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 06:03:01 pm »
 :sad1: Not good news at all!!

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 06:06:04 pm »
Didn't someone else on here have similar issues?  Was it danish?

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 06:10:03 pm »
they dont run the vw backing plates  :confused: take them off

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 06:30:14 pm »
We did, they hit the bottom ball joint   :ashamed:

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 07:21:20 pm »
Did they put the ball joints on correctly ?

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 07:37:19 pm »
Dont you have the TT lower arms.  :happy2: If so i think SteveP had the same issue with his VWR brakes and TT arms.

And all the other stuff is par for the course from VWR. But once you can contact them, they will bend over backwards to help you out. Even though it would be better to fix problems before they occur. VWR in a nutshell.  :happy2:

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 08:34:37 pm »
if you have as tt says then thats why they dont fit  :smiley: they are built on the stock gti setup and once you change that you need to tell vwr that  :smiley:

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 09:20:20 pm »
I'll try and speak to VWR tomorrow, I did discuss my suspension settings and mods at the sane time I  discussed if uprating rear brakes was worthwhile

What was the solution with TT bottom arms ?

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 09:26:18 pm »


What was the solution with TT bottom arms ?


A new home for them, i believe.  :sad1:

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 09:36:23 pm »


What was the solution with TT bottom arms ?


A new home for them, i believe.  :sad1:

Correct  :sad1:

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 09:53:46 pm »


What was the solution with TT bottom arms ?


A new home for them, i believe.  :sad1:

Well i have the TT arms and S3 hubs on mine and had a go at fitting the Tarox 10 pots from Hurdy's car, with the S3 hubs the adaptor for my non radial fitted calipers sits 16mm further in and new adaptors are being made as we speak. But trouble with the TT arms seems not to occur. The REVO brakes are the same as VWR, maybe they have some knowledge as to get these brakes to fit?? But IMO it's a pain to get something to fit when just one part is altered from stock. That's the way i like my stuff, ,, 1 problem at the time  :wink:

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 10:07:00 pm »
If they simply don't fit I expect them to take back and refund. There is nothing on the web site and I had long conversations about the suspension settings I run and the bottom arms adding track and the reason why buying the kit for stock wheels with the extra 6mm would not be a good idea.

Plus they are unused and unsuitable if this is the case. They do say please call to discuss needs, I did.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2011, 10:09:40 pm by Carrera2RS »

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Re: VWR brakes, very disappointed
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 10:08:26 pm »
You will have issues with vwr brakes and tt lower arms and I believe this is why steve sold his and went with adjustable top mounts. Correct me if I'm wrong Steve.