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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2011, 07:19:32 pm »
Details of these lines please... ;-)
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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2011, 07:29:44 pm »
Offer is permenantly in the discounts section here - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30570.0.html

We tend to be doing at least half a dozen sets of custom lines a day most weeks now for people changing brake systems to ones from other cars. We have all the listings for OEM specs so its not hard to work out whats needed other than sometimes a bit of extra length depending on where the new caliper mounts and where the hose sits, but in terms of VAG conversion hoses we are pretty sorted in that dept, and also supply the likes of Dave B from this forum with his lines for all the non-std kits he offers for the Mk5/6's....

Just drop us a pm if we can be of any help.  :happy2:

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2011, 08:09:30 pm »
Thanks for the mention. I was advised that standard hoses would be more than capable  :happy2:
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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2011, 07:23:29 am »
They will be and are I'm sure capable, but will still expand as with all OEM rubber hoses under pressure/load, causing 'spongyness' in the pedal. You dont get that in braided hoses as the teflon they are made with doesnt expand so you get firm pedal response all the time.

Not that many people keep their cars this long anyway but from a time point of view the rubber ones will last 4-7 years max before failing on corrosion (depending on where you live, ie near the coast) whilst ours and other braided hose manufacturers come with a lifetime warranty.

Not a sales pitch here btw, just stating the facts FYI  :happy2:

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2011, 07:41:41 am »
They will be and are I'm sure capable, but will still expand as with all OEM rubber hoses under pressure/load, causing 'spongyness' in the pedal. You dont get that in braided hoses as the teflon they are made with doesnt expand so you get firm pedal response all the time.

Not that many people keep their cars this long anyway but from a time point of view the rubber ones will last 4-7 years max before failing on corrosion (depending on where you live, ie near the coast) whilst ours and other braided hose manufacturers come with a lifetime warranty.

Not a sales pitch here btw, just stating the facts FYI  :happy2:

I have an R32 Kit which i had on my previous car and i have put on my new car. It has OEM R32 Hoses and i certainly don't have any sponginess in the pedal. :confused:

I thought it was only beneficial to go with Braided Hoses & better fluid if you were tracking it a lot due to increase in fluid temps?

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2011, 07:54:25 am »
Strangely enough my Edition 30 with R32 fronts, my Mk5 R32 with R32 fronts (really?) and my Octavia with R32 fronts all have/had OEM hoses without the spongy pedal.  :confused:  :popcornsoda:

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2011, 08:41:03 am »
mine doesn't have a spongy pedal with the r32 brakes fitted right round with oem flexi pipes

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2011, 02:38:06 pm »
Brakes are now on & working really well. There is a noise from the front left side when braking lightly. Upon inspectio. There's a small dent/chip on the disc which presumably is causing the noise. Is this going to cause me grief or just be a bit annoying?
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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2011, 05:14:52 pm »
As long as it isn't cracked then it should be fine and just be a bit annoying. Inspect regularly though and at the first sign of cracking change the discs.

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2011, 06:48:57 pm »
As long as it isn't cracked then it should be fine and just be a bit annoying. Inspect regularly though and at the first sign of cracking change the discs.

Thanks  :happy2: Just what I wanted to hear
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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2011, 09:08:44 pm »
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Only stating facts, the guy has already fitted OEM hoses so not pitching in for a sale  :scared:

Rubber hose expands under pressure, thats what happens. The only way this is transmitted to the driver is through the pedal. Whether or not you've experienced or felt it before this is when the pedal has a small amount of travel (spongyness), this being the air in the system caused by the expansion and retraction of the rubber hose.

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2011, 01:18:54 pm »
I thought all oem hoses were braided anyway? Just with a rubber coating... They are certainly not just rubber tubes...
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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2011, 02:02:56 pm »
Offer is permenantly in the discounts section here - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30570.0.html

We tend to be doing at least half a dozen sets of custom lines a day most weeks now for people changing brake systems to ones from other cars. We have all the listings for OEM specs so its not hard to work out whats needed other than sometimes a bit of extra length depending on where the new caliper mounts and where the hose sits, but in terms of VAG conversion hoses we are pretty sorted in that dept, and also supply the likes of Dave B from this forum with his lines for all the non-std kits he offers for the Mk5/6's....

Just drop us a pm if we can be of any help.  :happy2:




I have never ever bought a set of Brake lines from this company.........so now I'm confused.

I also specify my own hoses to my own custom spec and don't use HEL's drawings.......

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2011, 07:31:05 am »
Apologies my bad Dave, I know you use our (HEL) stuff  to make your own custom spec lines and buy through a dealer of ours.  :happy2: (Same people HEL/Dubtek, the latter is just a personal offshoot owing to my own interest in VAG world)

And Dom no there is certainly no inner 'braid' on a rubber OEM hose. Sometimes a cotton reinforcement within the hose wall itself, but not specifically a braided section. Even if there was the fact that the rubber would still expand and contract under pressure would still mean you'd experience the same problem.

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Re: Fitting R32 brakes
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2011, 08:21:37 am »
Ahh Ok....hence my confusion...

Still waiting on a correct fitting for rear hoses to get them to fit  into the caliper - if you need a sample let me know, be worthwhile doing as they're rife through VAG B5/B7 A4, A6. Mk5 Platform TT's

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