high oil usage, any ideas?

[vRSAlex]

Quite a fair price tbh.  We do a brand new turbo for 899 plus vat, and with the labour it comes to more than the vw price, but its a new turbo.

If there is oil in the exhaust system, then it will clear within a few miles.  Any oil that's got into the intercooler will need the intercooler removing and cleaning out, or the oil will take fooking ages to clear through.

Sorry we quoted so long to take a look.  Bloody stacked with work and two lambos to get ready for a 24 hour race in Spain.

[PDT]

Oh well..................
Ended up paying £1370 altogether, inc all seals, and a £70 oil pipe(06F145778G). When I asked for my old turbo back, they then told me it was an exchange turbo so I couldnt have it back. I had a look at it and there was some oil coming out of it, and they was a bit of play in the shaft aswell.
I did a 20 mile trip, and still getting random plumes of blue smoke, and tailgate being covered in black dots again. So headed back to the dealers and they said everything was caked in oil, and I need to do at least 200 miles before it clears up
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but I find it highly unlikely that it will, I seem to have a distinct feeling I've just wasted £1370 on a second hand turbo that I didnt even need
On another note, I test drove a leon cupra r today, very nice, even the standard exhaust sounds better than my milltek, unfortunately was only offered £9500 for my heap of cr@p so I guess I wont be buying it

Did you ask the question regarding what they would do if they diagnosed it incorrectly?

[heavyd]

I did ask the question Dave, but they were adamant that it was the turbo, and that it wasnt anything else.
I did some logs today and the ignition timing angle is still acting strange between 2.5k-3k rpm.
How much would a couple of hours of dyno time and datalogging be Dave? got 5 maps to log, couple of runs a piece

[heavyd]

Oh well, the plot thickens yet again.
The intake manifold was removed, and inside where the valves are, it is caked in wet black oil
They asked me through to have a look for myself. All the pictures I have found on the web show a dry carbon build up on the valves, and a rusty looking looking cylinder head.
They still insist that the turbo I paid out £1370 was still part of the problem
Since it was replaced, I still used well over a litre of oil in 500 miles......................
I hope it isnt the valve stem oil seals I originally suggested to them before they decided it was the turbo

[Andy]

sounds like we are having similiar issues--after getting the turbo done i have the same problem..Had the head removed and tested and the valve stem oil seals have gone

[robdf2]

you not having much luck buddy.

my valve stem oil seals were also shot on my head but i wasnt using as much oil as you and from what the garage has told me and from my photos the valves were dryish.
tbh if your valve stem oil seals were shot to use this much oil you should of noticed a lot of blue smoke from your exhaust?
i thought you did a rev test when your car was warm and it didnt produce the smoke iirc? but correct me if im wrong.

i would still argue the fact about the turbo if i were you , how can thy relate that changing your turbo and you still having the original issue still means the turbo needed to be replaced?.

i wonder if your intercooler is full of oil? i know you get some in the bottom but i wonder if you have excess in there?

[heavyd]

Yep the usual signs aren't there, and no blue smoke on cold startup either.
They said the intercooler hoses were clear as they already checked for that allegedly

[Andy]

looking more and more that the head is going to have to be removed on your Dom

[Saint Steve]

Any valve pics possible?

[heavyd]

Any valve pics possible?

I nearly did, but I felt like a right nerd asking if I could take photos of the engine whilst its in a workshop! I only had my 3gs phone on me at the time anyway which wouldnt have taken much of a photo anyway. Will try and pluck up some courage when i got back tomorrow

[Stevenebm]

I don't care what dealers say.that can't be good to be going through oil like that.especially with the stte of the rear bumper.I'd be going for a compression test at a trusted garage.

[robdf2]

Any valve pics possible?

I nearly did, but I felt like a right nerd asking if I could take photos of the engine whilst its in a workshop! I only had my 3gs phone on me at the time anyway which wouldnt have taken much of a photo anyway. Will try and pluck up some courage when i got back tomorrow

i know how you feel mate but sometimes you just need to bite the bullett.
im going to the garage today and im asking to take photos , it has to be done lol

[heavyd]

I went to the dealers, car has been there 9 days now
latest update is they are blaming the mods that have been done to the car, so no chance of any free labour off them for any work, or their mis diagnosis of a faulty turbo, so basically paid £1720 for nothing whatsoever, all I have is a couple of photos they took after they removed the intake manifold ( http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36117.0.html ) car is still the same as it was 5 weeks ago, so looks like I am the proud owner of 5 of the most expensive photos in the world eh folks!
And all the manager says repetitively is they dont know what damage the modifications have made, performance exhaust, air filter, expecially the bsh pcv revamp kit I had on for a week. modifications modifications modifications.

[Andy]

They will blame any thing to get out doing it for free or they cocked up,

[Tfsi_Mike]

They learn the fundemental mechanics but seem to have no real ideal what the f*ck they are talking about.  The fact you are paying for parts fitted under mis diagnosis is didgusting