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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2011, 08:03:24 pm »
If the turbo seals go and oil goes into the exhaust then you will get clouds of white smoke.
Thanks alex, will look into fuelling system now :happy2:
I've put the PDtuning map on now, so I'll see if its the shark maps that are overfuelling before I go onto the hardware.
So its looking like the turbo may be ok after all then :stupid:

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2011, 08:03:54 pm »
I'm personally not thinking turbo, they usually go big style and give a high pitched whine and lots of white smoke, hence why i would do the compression test.  
It doesn't look like fuel as AFR is fine and let's face it the oil is going somewhere. Does it idle ok?
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2011, 08:22:22 pm »
It idles fine with no smoke, runs fine aswell, just smokes like a chipped diesel!

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2011, 08:29:52 pm »
If the turbo seals are slightly off then you will get smoke at idle.  Stem seals are blue smoke also at idle mainly after a run, then rings are blue smoke generally on over run.  Stem seals are sh*te on the vag range and so are the exhaust guides.

The oil is going somewhere and the only options are turbo, rings and stem seals if there are no obvious leaks and you are using a fair amount of oil too.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2011, 10:38:09 pm »
I trust have you cleaned all your plugs as fouled plugs dont spark and would cause the fuel not to ignite. Also to consider is your MAF/LAMBDA sensor might be starting to fail, as overfueling is sign of that.  Might be an idea to try one that you know is working to see if that helps.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2011, 06:20:31 am »
I just put the plugs straight back in  :rolleye:
I've still got the plugs I took out the other month which were fine, might try those in, I've also got a spare Maf, as I replaced that in january aswell.
I wonder if its worth switching back to the new OEM hpfp I have aswell, and taking the APR one off. I have noticed that the PDT map is less smokey than the Shark maps that I have been running. I wonder if its worth my while trying to get a full stock map on the car to see how that goes, as the stock one that shark provided me feels more like a stage 1 map  :confused:
When I checked the oil last night, ive used up around 250ml in 100 miles  :scared:

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2011, 08:31:19 am »
When I checked the oil last night, ive used up around 250ml in 100 miles  :scared:
That's why your plugs are fouled. Were all the plugs black like that?
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2011, 08:40:47 am »
Looking like stem seals or rings.  You need to get a cylinder leak down test done on the car.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2011, 09:25:56 am »
That's alot of oil in 100 miles...  :surprised:

You've checked the oil cap for sludge? There defo no oil leaks anywhere? Get someone to drive behind you and boot it/over run... You'd would notice blue smoke if coming through the engine/exhaust... with it burning this much surely!!
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2011, 09:58:37 am »
Well I managed to find a garage that can do a leakdown test 40mile away, so at least I can rule that out on Monday. Hope it's nothing to do with the remap. I was running very high timing pull for a while, hope it isn't that whats done the damage.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2011, 10:18:10 am »
I wouldnt worry about the map as others have the same map with no issues.  Its one of the many pitfalls of modifying when things go wrong :sad1: If its is running rich I would check the Lambda value as my old FRS had a similar issue and it was that.  Just worth checking absolutely everything before spending big cash.  The oil usage could be a red herring.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2011, 10:25:04 am »
Nobody else has the k04 version I've got mate, I'm onto my 9th version of it now, and was due to go back next week to get it done properly on the dyno. afr is only in the 11's the last time I logged it
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2011, 10:42:32 am »
Im sure Ben will sort you out mate.  He's a top bloke and nothing is ever too much trouble.  Overlooked that you had a K04...my bad!
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2011, 12:34:31 pm »
@heavyd , if its oil useage then could this not be something to do with the crankcase breathing ? Some fault with the pcv ? Something sending oil into the cylinder ? Although I suppose it would get burnt then though.   If it is something more sinister then what intake are you running ?  Particularly what filter ?

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2011, 12:59:57 pm »
I put a new PVC on the other month, I'm running a forge twintake. I might just bite the bullet and make the long drive down to backdraft and let them sort it out, rather than using a smaller garage, at least they have some experience with the engine. Don't know of any garages up here that could do the work.  :confused: