high oil usage, any ideas?

[Janner_Sy]

Hopefully pcv will sort it then.  You not have a spin on the dyno?  That twin fan they have looks the nuts, prob make the street lights dim when they turn that on

[heavyd]

Yep, he switched it on to show the power! They have got some kick when you stand in front of them There was too much stuff about, work getting done on the unit to be honest, he asked if I was going to the Rr day, I'm off that weekend, so probably go on them then

[PDT]

This is a dyno fan..........

   

did you try the suggestion I posted above dom?

[heavyd]

This is a dyno fan..........

   

did you try the suggestion I posted above dom?

Yes dave, about 3 posts back,...I did that idle test thing today. It did make a cloud, but it was black smoke that wasn't oily,  still no blue or White smoke??

Watched that youtube video, at least Dastek are good at making something Dave

[heavyd]

Oh well, good news is oil level didnt go down and covered over 400 miles, bad news is PCV fix didnt stop black smoke, still chucking out random plumes of black soot
Even worse still, I had some timing taken out of the map the other week because of the high timing pull, went to a RR day today, and have managed to lose 60bhp and 40lbsft of torque
from this


to this

[Tfsi_Mike]

Oh well, good news is oil level didnt go down and covered over 400 miles, bad news is PCV fix didnt stop black smoke, still chucking out random plumes of black soot
Even worse still, I had some timing taken out of the map the other week because of the high timing pull, went to a RR day today, and have managed to lose 60bhp and 40lbsft of torque
from this


to this

[heavyd]

I'm sitting here wondering whether or not to switch to another one of my maps that hasnt had loads of timing taken out to see if that makes better power whilst the RR day is on

[Tfsi_Mike]

I'm sitting here wondering whether or not to switch to another one of my maps that hasnt had loads of timing taken out to see if that makes better power whilst the RR day is on

You'll probably only wonder if u don't

[PDT]

What sort of cooling setup was used during the run? Thats a massive difference between the two runs but all of the calcs used on tne dyno are identical.

Still got our stg2 to compare?

[heavyd]

Oh well, curiousity got the better of me
The fan was the same box as what you have got Dave.
The place was closing, so I could only se the maps that were on my sts device, so I had another stage 3 that made 317bhp and 280lb/ft at RStuning full of confidence I loaded it on and headed back and it did this

So I put his dyno into question , and he ran  a stock map run to prove his dyno worthy
The result was, in stock mode, 235bhp and 250lb/ft of torque, which to all my knowledge is spot on.

If it had something wrong, surely the stock run would have been missing some horses aswell?
It was an Evo tuning place, and he suggested that theres no way that my car could have made 350bhp anyway, 300 is the max, and no way mechanical fuel pump can possibly give an extra 50bhp
He just knows how to use a dyno better than other places do 

[PDT]

How many stage 3 maps have you had on the car???

Stock run seems spot on, with your build spec you should be seeing 350/350 easily (even if it's not an Evo)  Your car has shown that it can do it as it has made it before but something is seriously odd with these figures, it's making less than a stock car with a stage 1 map

Want to test it on the Dyno for a like for like test?

[Janner_Sy]

Theres something amiss with your car big style.

Bluefin gave you really low figures, Revo map gives you fault codes galore, shark wouldnt work with your dsg at first, sorted that car running really well but only until you  had the revo dsg remap and again car spits its dummy out, with weird timing pull but with no map change etc, it then starts eating oil and smoking.

You mmust hve an underlying issue somehere with your car, or some rare gremlin, otherwise there wouldnt be such differences on previous maps etc.

[PDT]

Shame that you switched from Revo now that the 'rich at idle' issue has been resolved.

If you need any help finding what's wrong I'm back to work on Tuesday 

[Janner_Sy]

Thinking about it 235hp would be low given your mods.

An intake should easily provide 10hp minimum on a stock car, then you have a full TBE which should easily add another say 10hp.  Then the IC, fuell pump etc, etc.  With those mods you should have been closer to 250hp stock.  So if its under reading by around 20hp it wouldnt be as bad as you are showing. You'd still be down on whats expected but not by so much.

Also bear in mind the 348hp was on pdts rollers which does appear to yield around 10-igher figures looking at comparable cars on surrey and jkms DD rollers.  Maybe this one is a bit tighter as well.

Think your still down on power, but maybe not aas bad as you might think

[PDT]

I dyno tested 3 stock cars today, PD140 golf which made 143hp, polo 1.9pd100 which made 102hp and a stock 135i which made 304hp so dyno is reading pretty close to what it should. Last week a Seat Leon 240 tfsi made 238hp.

Dynodynamics dynos read pretty much the same accross the board, you just cant win though, one day someone claims that dyno X reads too low and the next day someone says it reads too high.

Doms car should make 350/350 easily, but stg2+ does give a wide range of numbers, anything from 330-380 has been seen. I think Dom has had a rough ride with things lately with the issues of dead brakes, high timing pull, low power, clouds of smoke, using oil.......  Somethings not quite right somewhere. Apart from the infamous Revo idle fault code Doms car ran perfectly with their STG2+

I think the car needs some stock logs taken and then a full day on the dyno to get the car right and building a good stg2+ map, if there is an underlying issue then this will show it up. Switching maps every 5 mins and testing on various different dynos will just cloud the facts, just a shame its taking so long with so many stumbling blocks with his current setup.