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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2011, 09:35:37 pm »
dead turbo = reason to go hybrid......

Are there many proven maps for the hybrid now, remember jabbalukes thread died off, what was the outcome?
Statlers cars were quick but very highly strung, could be unreliable?

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2011, 09:38:28 pm »
waiting on the update to Alex's vRS thread tbh.  All the issues with hybrids seemed to be DSG related iirc. 

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2011, 09:51:54 pm »
What about the LOBA LO380
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2011, 09:52:45 pm »
waiting on the update to Alex's vRS thread tbh.  All the issues with hybrids seemed to be DSG related iirc. 
Well thats not very reassuring for me then is it! last thing I want to be doing is rebuilding the dsg box :laugh:
Theres only one place I could find to hybridise the turbo, and that was going to cost £700. I would rather buy a brand new one for £1068 than go down the possible troubles that would come with a 400bhp turbo fitted. no doubt Mikko could sort a map out for it, but I wouldnt want to stress the internals any further

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #124 on: August 29, 2011, 10:21:12 am »
The Revo map is working fine with my hybrid so far.  Fueling is spot on.

High pull back could be from a fooked cam chain tensioner or vvt solenoid.  I've seen damaged wiring to the solenoids cause them to see 12 cf's while just cruising.  The black smoke is a worry. Shows unburnt fuel so why isn't it being fully burnt?  Does the car missfire at all? What plugs are you running and are they all gapped correctly?  Has the cambelt been recently done?

Need to spend some time on the car really to get to the bottom of it.  I would like know why the map only asks for 110 bar fuel pressure?
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #125 on: August 29, 2011, 12:43:09 pm »
I did phone to get booked ibto your place alex, but was told it would be a couple of months wait until they ciuld see my car  :surprised:
Cambelt was done in february. Running NGk plugs from the dealers. It doesn't misfire at all. The pdt map is only a stage 2 file, thats why it only Asks for 110 bar.
I think the smoke could be down to the fact the throttle is closing, hence why the turbo pressure is spiking, if there's no air, fuel isn't being ignited, so black smoke. But why the throttle is closing is another mystery, I think if I can find out why that is happening, I may stand a chance of solving it :stupid:

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #126 on: August 29, 2011, 12:59:46 pm »
Throttle is probably closing due to the boost spike being too high and it reaching a boost limit that should be built into the map.  Could also be why you get such a sudden drop off of boost.

Have you done a log of the throttle angle?
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #127 on: August 29, 2011, 06:08:53 pm »
The Revo map is working fine with my hybrid so far.  Fueling is spot on.

High pull back could be from a fooked cam chain tensioner or vvt solenoid.  I've seen damaged wiring to the solenoids cause them to see 12 cf's while just cruising.  The black smoke is a worry. Shows unburnt fuel so why isn't it being fully burnt?  Does the car missfire at all? What plugs are you running and are they all gapped correctly?  Has the cambelt been recently done?

Need to spend some time on the car really to get to the bottom of it.  I would like know why the map only asks for 110 bar fuel pressure?
Hi ALex , sorry to jump in , when you say the vvt solenoid goes does it make any noises? like maybe like something lifting then dropping again?
i have high  timing pull and have had this noise for ages.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #128 on: August 29, 2011, 06:51:28 pm »
I did a log of the throttle angle on the previous page. A mate followed behind me today, and definately says that its more blue than black under load. Could the turbo oil return be blocked?

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #129 on: August 29, 2011, 07:29:46 pm »
The Revo map is working fine with my hybrid so far.  Fueling is spot on.

High pull back could be from a fooked cam chain tensioner or vvt solenoid.  I've seen damaged wiring to the solenoids cause them to see 12 cf's while just cruising.  The black smoke is a worry. Shows unburnt fuel so why isn't it being fully burnt?  Does the car missfire at all? What plugs are you running and are they all gapped correctly?  Has the cambelt been recently done?

Need to spend some time on the car really to get to the bottom of it.  I would like know why the map only asks for 110 bar fuel pressure?
Hi ALex , sorry to jump in , when you say the vvt solenoid goes does it make any noises? like maybe like something lifting then dropping again?
i have high  timing pull and have had this noise for ages.

Tbh I've not listened to one.  Do you get high timing pull even when just cruising around?
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #130 on: August 29, 2011, 07:40:09 pm »
I did a log of the throttle angle on the previous page. A mate followed behind me today, and definately says that its more blue than black under load. Could the turbo oil return be blocked?

If the oil return was blocked then the turbo would be throwing out loads of oil and would be dead by now.  They usually only get semi blocked when the bearings in the turbo break apart and then get stuck.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #131 on: August 30, 2011, 12:53:41 pm »
Have you checked theres no air leaks between the turbo and AFM?

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #132 on: August 30, 2011, 06:19:30 pm »
Have you checked theres no air leaks between the turbo and AFM?
Yes Dave, no leaks, I switched to my spare MAf today to see if it makes any difference.
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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #133 on: September 05, 2011, 12:08:44 pm »
Went to the dealers today, had it booked in, got my courtesy car, half an hour late they phoned me to see they cant touch the car as it has an intake kit fitted :stupid:
So I went back through, they had indeed done a test drive, as teh mileage had increased, but when speaking to the chief technician, he said it had been modified to they cant do any fault finding on it???
all that was fitted was a forge twintake, milltek TBE, and they also said I had an aftermarket fuel pump on, which was actually a genuine brand new VW part, but they said that no way was it a vw part that was on my car :fighting:
So went to the next dealers, chief technician had a look at my car, did various checks, and concluded it was the turbo oil seals. So its booked in thursday for a new turbo :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:
Would be interesting to see what caused the problem, as I havent heard of many of these turbos going......

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Re: high oil usage, any ideas?
« Reply #134 on: September 05, 2011, 01:07:31 pm »
there have been a few not so well published K04 failures on stage 2+ tune in the past, normally go bang though before owners have the option of changing the turbo before any major failure occurs.

be interested to see some photo's of your Turbo once removed, ie condition of both twin scroll's..