Make a donation

Author Topic: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it? - Update and confused!  (Read 20840 times)

Offline Tfsi_Mike

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 241
  • -Receive: 309
  • Posts: 10222
  • Go Large or Go Home
    • Tfsi Mikes Money Pit AKS / TTE / RTech St2+ Cupra
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,32721.msg402587.html#msg402587
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2011, 06:04:53 pm »

I asked for a smoke test on Sasturday but said they need the car for 4 hours & it was only open till lunch.  May have it done Tue.  Im almost convinced my issue is injector tbh.


Offline E30Dom

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 42
  • -Receive: 76
  • Posts: 2100
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2011, 01:59:43 pm »
MIke,

If you look at similar issues on the older s3/tt's when they mention missing on cylinder 3 they say it's the amplifier module, not the coilpack, but assume that's all built in on our coilpacks?

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/422097.aspx

Dom
« Last Edit: October 04, 2011, 02:01:19 pm by E30Dom »
Diesel Daily Hack.

Offline brookesb32

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 59
  • -Receive: 75
  • Posts: 1068
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2011, 08:30:06 pm »
MIke,

If you look at similar issues on the older s3/tt's when they mention missing on cylinder 3 they say it's the amplifier module, not the coilpack, but assume that's all built in on our coilpacks?

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/422097.aspx

Dom


Found similar on mk4 site when I searched, and the symptoms were the same as ours; stuttering, hesitation under load and Shaking on idle.

Also took out the dipstick tonight and definitely made the engine rough the more pulled out. Exhaust tone sounded a little up then down in points, but may have always sounded like that at idle and I'm just imagining things  :smiley:
VCDS cable HEX-USB+CAN. New but can do the basics including coding


Offline E30Dom

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 42
  • -Receive: 76
  • Posts: 2100
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2011, 01:50:22 pm »
Mate,

Just picked my car up from APD performance.

She is back to full health, the culprit... SPARK PLUGS!

So guessing VW didn't replace them on the 40k, back in May!

Hope you have a similar outcome, but would suggest swapping them over...

Dom
Diesel Daily Hack.

Offline Mandy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 95
  • -Receive: 94
  • Posts: 1701
  • Drink Russian, Wear Italian, Drive German :)
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2011, 09:54:04 am »
Dom, were your spark plugs quite loose? Mine were only 5k old and were quite loose when I had them changed. Since changing them to a new set my stuttering has gone too. Don't know how they become loose over time...  :confused:
................................................
Driving: Tornado Red MK7 GTD, BMW 330e
Drove: Rising Blue Golf 6R, Reflex Silver Edition30 No.1684, Tornado Red Mk5 Golf GTI

Offline winrya

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 16
  • Posts: 997
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2011, 10:11:04 am »
Dom, were your spark plugs quite loose? Mine were only 5k old and were quite loose when I had them changed. Since changing them to a new set my stuttering has gone too. Don't know how they become loose over time...  :confused:

They're absolutely going to cause problems if not seated properly.  I'd imagine whoever installed them didn't torque them up correctly!

Offline E30Dom

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 42
  • -Receive: 76
  • Posts: 2100
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2011, 12:17:45 pm »
No, APD were under the impression that they were 'Old', and not been changed...

All is well now though... :
Diesel Daily Hack.

Offline brookesb32

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 59
  • -Receive: 75
  • Posts: 1068
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2011, 01:13:08 pm »
No, APD were under the impression that they were 'Old', and not been changed...

All is well now though... :

So what should i look for when i check the plugs - planning to have a look next weekend before i replace them? Never changed plugs before so unsure how they should look after use since may and 5k miles?

VCDS cable HEX-USB+CAN. New but can do the basics including coding


Offline jamma

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 13
  • -Receive: 2
  • Posts: 386
    • Email
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2011, 04:13:02 pm »
I have this and its driving me mad. I had spark plugs changed, dv valve changed and VW say they changed the coil packs on the recal but I dont really trust them. I took it in last week and they could see nothing wrong, its stuttering all over the place , when car has low fuel its unreal the stuttering. Half a tank or more its not nearly so bad .  Its booked into JKM now as I trust those guys to advise me what is up .


How VW cannot see it is beyond me, I even had the light come on twice on dash as it was missfiring . The one that says go to vw as it could damage your cat. Their machine couldnt pick this up , totals knobs IMO
« Last Edit: October 07, 2011, 04:15:57 pm by jamma »

Offline Tfsi_Mike

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 241
  • -Receive: 309
  • Posts: 10222
  • Go Large or Go Home
    • Tfsi Mikes Money Pit AKS / TTE / RTech St2+ Cupra
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,32721.msg402587.html#msg402587
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2011, 04:50:01 pm »
I have this and its driving me mad. I had spark plugs changed, dv valve changed and VW say they changed the coil packs on the recal but I dont really trust them. I took it in last week and they could see nothing wrong, its stuttering all over the place , when car has low fuel its unreal the stuttering. Half a tank or more its not nearly so bad .  Its booked into JKM now as I trust those guys to advise me what is up .


How VW cannot see it is beyond me, I even had the light come on twice on dash as it was missfiring . The one that says go to vw as it could damage your cat. Their machine couldnt pick this up , totals knobs IMO

Mine seems to be very bad @ 40 - 50 miles to empty & below too

Offline brookesb32

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 59
  • -Receive: 75
  • Posts: 1068
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2011, 04:52:50 pm »
soooo, a bit of a follow - up to the saga.

Car been in the garage for new discs and pads at the rear (and now new calipers due to them ceasing - not cheap are they1  :laugh:) but also for a full diagnostic test....

..... which did not pick up one single fault, they did a full sweep and even took it out on the road with the scan and nothing.

So wondering if it is the spark plugs - they weren't convinced as normally it wouldn't be an intermittant fault, when they are gone they are gone kinda thing.

So people - thoughts on that one?  :confused:
VCDS cable HEX-USB+CAN. New but can do the basics including coding


Offline jamma

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 13
  • -Receive: 2
  • Posts: 386
    • Email
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2011, 12:23:17 pm »
soooo, a bit of a follow - up to the saga.

Car been in the garage for new discs and pads at the rear (and now new calipers due to them ceasing - not cheap are they1  :laugh:) but also for a full diagnostic test....

..... which did not pick up one single fault, they did a full sweep and even took it out on the road with the scan and nothing.

So wondering if it is the spark plugs - they weren't convinced as normally it wouldn't be an intermittant fault, when they are gone they are gone kinda thing.

So people - thoughts on that one?  :confused:




I went to JKM this weekend as my car is spluttering etc, as said before my DV valve, coil packs and spark plugs have all been changed in last 2 months.

They put the map back on and the the car was running at 1 bar, when it should be 1.4 bar ( maybe someone could explain all this bar stuff to me as never had a turbo before ? ) . The down pipe was spitting out oil so they changed this. ( The vw garage changed the air con condenser 2 weeks back so how they didnt see this is beyond me). Anyway part fitted and back to  1.4 bar. Still stuttering though. JPM advised me they had same problem with ED30 and it was spark plugs, I only just had spark plugs fitted 2 month back though. So we binned the Bosche plugs which are naff apparently and changed for NGK Iridium which are also a lot cheaper funny enough.  Stuttering has gone and now its fecking quick  :signLOL:


So my suggestion is to bin those nasty bosch plugs and fit some NGK's  :happy2:


 





Offline E30Dom

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 42
  • -Receive: 76
  • Posts: 2100
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2011, 12:25:31 pm »
Yeah glad you got it sorted bud, sorry i didn't get back to you but knew it was gonna be the sparkies! ;)
Diesel Daily Hack.

Offline jamma

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 13
  • -Receive: 2
  • Posts: 386
    • Email
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2011, 12:28:49 pm »
Yeah glad you got it sorted bud, sorry i didn't get back to you but knew it was gonna be the sparkies! ;)

You talking to me or him ?  :signLOL:

I dont think the OP has sorted it yet

Offline E30Dom

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 42
  • -Receive: 76
  • Posts: 2100
Re: If it's not the DV or the coil packs what is it?
« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2011, 12:32:21 pm »
Haha sorry my mistake... yeah it was meant to be to OP, my money is on plugs...

Glad you got yours sorted too buddy!  :grin:

Dom
Diesel Daily Hack.