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Tracking or Camber?
« on: November 05, 2011, 09:45:24 pm »
Tyres have even tread, apart from inner edge which has a 45 degree chamfer...



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Tracking or Camber do you reckon, both fronts are same...

Left Front - Camber =-1.01 & Toe =0.06
Right Front - Camber = -0.50 & Toe =0.06

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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 09:59:11 pm »
Are they the tracking results after a recent alignment?

You wouldn't get wear like that unless the toe was poking out loads.
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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 10:13:11 pm »
Yeah that was the latest alignment done say 3 months ago... So dunno if it was bad before, then just overall wear has made it worse...

Would VW do a better job of alignment?
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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 10:25:11 pm »
Yeah that was the latest alignment done say 3 months ago... So dunno if it was bad before, then just overall wear has made it worse...

Would VW do a better job of alignment?

Must have been out for a while before the latest alignment.

Now you have new tyres it would be worth doing the alignment again.  Obviously I would do the best job!  :grin:
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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2011, 08:11:50 am »
Yeah that was the latest alignment done say 3 months ago... So dunno if it was bad before, then just overall wear has made it worse...

Would VW do a better job of alignment?

Must have been out for a while before the latest alignment.

Now you have new tyres it would be worth doing the alignment again.  Obviously I would do the best job!  :grin:

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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2011, 09:17:14 am »
Cheers Alex, I would be happy for you to do it if anywhere near Dorset!? But fear you're not... I will get my pescys refurbed over winter and new tyres on and then get it set up again...

Thinking of selling the rear tyres as they have 4-5mm of even tread as part worns,then get 4 new tyres on the refurbed wheels...
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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2011, 03:06:11 pm »
Can you even adjust the camber?
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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 03:08:49 pm »
Everything's Adjustable apart from rear toe I think

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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2011, 03:29:02 pm »
Can you even adjust the camber?

The front camber has very minimal adjustment by shifting the subframe from left to right.  You will only get around 10 mins of adjustment either way.

The rear camber and toe are both adjustable.
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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2011, 03:38:00 pm »
On a stock car, front toe is adjustable, whilst caster and camber are fixed. If there is an imbalance across the front axle you can move the front subframe slightly to optimise (balance across the axle) the front camber and caster.

On the rear you can adjust the toe and camber.

In my experience most FWD cars with a mac-strut front end tend to scrub the inside edge of the front tyres when cornering. It normally shows most on the offside front tyre due to enthusiastic driving around roundabouts.

Ignoring the inner edge of your tyres for the moment, what are the other tread blocks like? If you run your hand around the tyre, does it feel smooth one way, and rough the other - almost as if the treadblocks have a kinda sawtooth profile when viewed from the side?

It's quite possible you've run with excess toe-out, and then with the inside edge scrub superimposed on this the tyres are shot on the inside edge earlier than would normally be the case.

Would VW do a better job of alignment?

To my knowledge, the best equipment in Dorset (Poole / Bournemouth) area is at Pro-Tyre in Creekmoor. It's about £25 per geo change, so theoretically a max of £75 on a stock golf.

I've not used Protyre in years, as I always do my own alignment, but if I had to, that's who I'd use.

Just my 2p worth..... others may disagree.

edit - seems Alex replied to the camber question, whilst I was typing my reply......



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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 07:31:57 pm »
You did however put more effort into explaining it than I did.  I tend to move my hands around when explaining! :happy2:
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Re: Tracking or Camber?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2011, 07:34:20 pm »
Haha it's funny you say that.. it's ProTyre in creekmoor that i've always gone too...

As you also say it might have been the exagerated tyre wear when the alignment was out, that did the majority of the damage then general wear caused the rest...
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