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Car broke down today - Help needed!
« on: November 10, 2011, 07:25:34 pm »
Hello folks, the saga continues with my car yet again :fighting:
When I picked the car up, I put my foot down, and it hesitated, engine revs fell,  then picked up again. The same thing happened this morning aswell, aroung 50mph.
I was at a set of traffic lights today, pulled away, same hestitation, then the engine cut out. Car was stranded for 30 minutes and would not start up at all, then all of a sudden, it fired up, and away it went.
I logged the fault codes as listed below.
I looked at rosstech, and I fitted a new OEM hfpf earlier this year, can follower was fine 2 months ago, I had bought a new low pressure fuel sensor of someone from this site a few months ago, but unfortunately I left my spare on the APR pump when I sold it :fighting:
I did some datalogging, and the fuel pressure is fine, if anything it goes higher than requested?
Has anyone got any ideas as to what it can be, as I dont fancy being stranded at a set of traffic lights for half an hour again!

hursday,10,November,2011,17:59:27:36725
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4

                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 115 L    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
  Component and/or Version: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030
           Software Coding: 040300031C070160
            Work Shop Code: WSC 66565 257 00032
                      VCID: 2F4B212BC78D
4 Faults Found:

012555 - Low Pressure Fuel regulation: Fuel Pressure Outside Specification 
               P310B - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 73640 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:16:26

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2407 /min
                    Load: 22.3 %
                    Speed: 34.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 84.0°C
                    Temperature: 18.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

000135 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure: Too Low
               P0087 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 73640 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:16:28

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2205 /min
                    Load: 37.2 %
                    Speed: 31.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 18.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

000135 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure: Too Low
               P0087 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 73663 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:31:56

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1589 /min
                    Load: 23.1 %
                    Speed: 23.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

009236 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1 Voltage too Low / Air Leakage / Sample Error
               P2414 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 73663 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:31:57

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1444 /min
                    Load: 16.9 %
                    Speed: 20.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 82.0°C
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V


Readiness: 0000 0000

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 07:28:30 pm »
You must have alot of paitience Dom!  :scared:

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 08:00:55 pm »
You must have alot of paitience Dom!  :scared:
I haven't, and what I did have is wearing very thin

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 08:02:43 pm »

Only extent of my knowledge is its always worth double checking cam follower and the lambda is the pre cat one that's showing fault.

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 08:03:42 pm »
Mine showed similar fault codes and I replaced the cam follower and intake manifold runner. Been well ever since.

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 08:11:35 pm »
which part is the intake manifold runner? excuse my intelligence!

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 08:14:07 pm »
Bloody hell,think our cars are bloody jinxed

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 08:18:00 pm »
It is actually a motor on the side of the intake manifold that opens and closes. I am not too tech headed but I knew mine was knackered.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5017869-Replacing-Intake-Manifold-Runner-Control-motor-(Flap-motor)-with-pics

That might help explain :happy2:

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 09:39:54 pm »
Found this for you Dom

There is a TSB for p0087.
Thrust sensor on your HPFP may be bad. Fuel leaks into it and causes incorrect values to be reported.

Do you get the cuts when just cruising along? Car cuts fuel, throws into limp mode? You dont even need to be getting on it?

Do you get stuff like this:

000135 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure: Too Low
 P0087 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

012555 - Low Pressure Fuel regulation: Fuel Pressure Outside Specification
P310B - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

Check this TSB: 01 07 64 oct. 1, 2007 2016182.
"Due to fuel intrusion into the low pressure side fuel pressure sensor -G410-, a false signal may be sent to the ECM resulting in a reading that is out of tolerance. A false signal may result in illumination of the malfunction indicator lamp and DTC p129F or DTC 310B being stores in fault memory. To fix, replace with the new sensor to aid against fuel intrusion."

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 09:42:14 pm »
part number: 06E-906-051-K
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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 09:47:39 pm »
Asking the question for diagnosis purposes and because I am lost with where you are at with remaps.

Do you have the genuine OEM map on the car now?

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 10:07:16 pm »
Thanks w8, I think I'll look into that one :happy2:
part number: 06E-906-051-K
I only bought one of those in June off H4urdy http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,31474.msg390937.html#msg390937
I think its looking like it might be the cause of the problem to be honest. Wish I had taken it off the APR pump now and saved myself sone £££££s I'll order a new cam follower whilst the pump is off for the 8th time or so :laugh: Thanks for the heads up martzini

Asking the question because I am lost with where you are at with remaps.

Do you have the OEM map on the car now?



Yes mate, had a full engine rebuild done the other week, only done 200miles on it, so OEM map on the car until its been run in :sad1:

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 10:08:17 pm »
Blocked fuel filter  :wink:

Sounds similar to one Steve Jr had this week.
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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 10:19:30 pm »
Blocked fuel filter  :wink:

Sounds similar to one Steve Jr had this week.

Thinking about it, it took half an hour, and countless times to turn the car over, so maybe if there was a blockage, and it eventually worked free, might be why it turned over in the end?
So much for V-Power then.... I never get let the fuel gauge go less than 1/4 of a tank either

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Re: Car broke down today - Help needed!
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 10:26:49 pm »
Thanks w8, I think I'll look into that one :happy2:
part number: 06E-906-051-K
I only bought one of those in June off H4urdy http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,31474.msg390937.html#msg390937
I think its looking like it might be the cause of the problem to be honest. Wish I had taken it off the APR pump now and saved myself sone £££££s I'll order a new cam follower whilst the pump is off for the 8th time or so :laugh: Thanks for the heads up martzini

Asking the question because I am lost with where you are at with remaps.

Do you have the OEM map on the car now?



Yes mate, had a full engine rebuild done the other week, only done 200miles on it, so OEM map on the car until its been run in :sad1:

The reason I asked was - on our last but one trip to the Ring, markymark had a limp mode (not a Pele problem) problem, throwing very similar codes.  

We changed the above sensor in a car park in Kent, and I believe it worked out to be the map.  We persevered but ended up leaving the car in Belgium, at a VW dealers.