Make a donation
« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?  (Read 3164 times)

Offline ED30_jase

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 4
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 160
    • Email
Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« on: November 07, 2011, 09:23:15 pm »
Basically just curious as to which has the better engine....my ED30 the 35 or the R?


I know there's maybe a lot more too it than a quick answer but people's opinions are welcome!

Jase
Logged

Offline MAT ED30

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 82
  • Posts: 5728
  • Vwr fan boy
    • Email
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2011, 09:27:24 pm »
same engine
Logged

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

Offline baldwined30

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 1
  • -Receive: 6
  • Posts: 525
    • Email
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2011, 09:53:18 pm »
What intercooler does the 35 and the R have?
Logged
Ed30

Offline bacillus

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 4
  • -Receive: 451
  • Posts: 6329
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 11:17:17 pm »
I suspect the R will have the S3 IC and the ed35 the standard gti one.
Logged
Without traction power is nothing!

Offline sub39h

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 189
  • -Receive: 84
  • Posts: 1719
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 11:23:57 pm »
strengthened internals on the S3/TT-S/Golf .:R engines too
Logged
2006 Phantom Black A3 2.0T S-Line
DSG | Rear Parking Sensors | MFSW | BOSE | Auto lights/wipers | Half leather
MODS : '09 tail lights | TT vents | Bilstein B14 | RNS-E 2010 | AMI | AKS Tuning custom CAI | Titanium BBS VZs | NQS BBK | WALK | Autotech RARB | Bluemotion aero | Blueflame TBE | Autotech HPFP | MY11 Wing Mirrors | Bluetooth | S3 Intercooler
PLANS: Stage 2+

Offline RobH

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 9
  • Posts: 581
  • Revo stg 2+
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 11:31:12 pm »
Quote from: sub39h on November 07, 2011, 11:23:57 pm
strengthened internals on the S3/TT-S/Golf .:R engines too

Im 99% sure the internals are strethened on the ed30 engine aswell :wink:
Logged

Offline bacillus

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 4
  • -Receive: 451
  • Posts: 6329
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 11:33:48 pm »
Quote from: RobH on November 07, 2011, 11:31:12 pm
Quote from: sub39h on November 07, 2011, 11:23:57 pm
strengthened internals on the S3/TT-S/Golf .:R engines too

Im 99% sure the internals are strethened on the ed30 engine aswell :wink:

They are...
Logged
Without traction power is nothing!

Offline Tamiyoman

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 39
  • Posts: 1352
  • Prev car - Candy DSG ED30 No. 2235
    • Email
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 04:55:40 pm »
So same engine, just poss diff intercooler on the R model then, nice that they know a good unit when they have one and re-use it  :grin:
Logged
MK7 Golf R, Pure White 3Dr DSG, Had since 10/06/14

Offline E30Dom

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 42
  • -Receive: 76
  • Posts: 2100
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 05:13:05 pm »
So stage 4 = 586bhp is possible !?!  :surprised:
Logged
Diesel Daily Hack.

Offline baldwined30

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 1
  • -Receive: 6
  • Posts: 525
    • Email
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 07:27:42 pm »
Quote from: E30Dom on November 08, 2011, 05:13:05 pm
So stage 4 = 586bhp is possible !?!  :surprised:
Seems that way!! More than just a few bolt ons!!
Logged
Ed30

Offline GLIDN

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 12
  • -Receive: 19
  • Posts: 552
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 11:48:18 pm »
as stated above.

In all honesty I would rather mk6 TSI GTI engine. seeing TSI engine with APR K04 kit already makes 366WHP. no internal change. New Stage 3 kit is around 450HP. Stage 4? well will have to wait and see.

The TSI overall seems a better engine for maintenance and no stupid camshaft bucket and fuel pump crap issue. I drive TFSI engine, so know these stupid issue's all to well.
Logged

Offline GrayMK5GTI

  • Global Moderator
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 125
  • -Receive: 248
  • Posts: 4165
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 08:12:51 am »
Surely the "R" engine would have EVEN STRONGER internals than the ED30?  :innocent:
Logged
NOW: 2015 Golf R DSG 5 Door, Lapiz Blue, 19s, Discover Nav, Reversing Camera
GONE:2007 Black GTI Edition 30 3dr

Offline bacillus

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 4
  • -Receive: 451
  • Posts: 6329
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 08:18:40 am »
Quote from: GrayMK5GTI on November 11, 2011, 08:12:51 am
Surely the "R" engine would have EVEN STRONGER internals than the ED30?  :innocent:

Why if it's effectively the same engine??  :confused:
Logged
Without traction power is nothing!

Offline GrayMK5GTI

  • Global Moderator
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 125
  • -Receive: 248
  • Posts: 4165
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 10:39:19 pm »
To cope with the extra 30bhp (ish) they gave it. Vw like headroom (along with other manufacturers) so they will always leave so many % headroom. They will have increased the strength of the engine to match the headroom of the ED30
Logged
NOW: 2015 Golf R DSG 5 Door, Lapiz Blue, 19s, Discover Nav, Reversing Camera
GONE:2007 Black GTI Edition 30 3dr

Offline Mk5 GTian

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 37
  • Posts: 1374
  • Wolfsburg - Probably the Best Cars in the World
Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 03:38:39 am »

VW chose the EA113 over the EA888 for the Ed35 for a reason! Brilliant unit. Check out the Car magazine Sports Car of the Year feature in which the Ed35 beats the 1series M, 370Z, Mini coupe JCW, RS3, DS3 & comes joint second with the Megane Trophy, losing out only to the Cayman R.

Which you think is the best unit depends on whether you want 2 or 4wd. Personally it would be the Ed35 for me. I love the unit in my Mk5, and will skip the standard Mk6 based on a recent test drive which confirmed what Car says in this article; "using the EA113 unit........the rawer character so far missing from the MK6 GTi is back"

Logged

Fun Golf: 2016 mk7 R DSG 3 door. Work Golf: 2015 mk7 1.4 TSI GT ACT 5 door.
Gone but not forgotten : mk2 Golf GTI 16v, mk4 Golf V6 4Motion, mk5 GTI Storm Developments Stage 1, mk5 GTI Revo Stage 1, BMW 330ci, Skoda Octavia VRS Revo Stage 2, BMW Z4 Sdrive35i.
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »