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OK, think I've figured it all out now.
Darren's pin outs look to be pre 2006 type. Mine and Skards the later type.
I know what needs to go where.
Just gotta figure the correct pin positions to repair drivers seat connector then I'm ready to give it a bash.
Apologies for speaking to myself lol, but may be useful for someone reading in the future, as the thread has been helpful for me.
Once I've checked and confirmed it all, I'll post up the results.
Jas

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Jason

I just took some pics of my drivers side plugs in the hope they are what you need. I didn't have to adapt any pins in regard to hooking up the Kufatec loom, it was all plug and play.







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That's a big help. Thanks for taking the time to do that.
Looks like I'm all set for a wiring session ;-)
Jas

Edit: from the pic, looks like the following, can you confirm:
1 empty
2 empty
3 empty
4 blue / black (thin wire)
5 brown (thick wire)
6 empty
7 empty
8 red / black (thin wire)
9 empty
10 purple / blue (thick wire)

Ive check by loom and the colours / tickness match. Ive ordered the repair wires and connector block.
Will repait the connector next week and then get the seats wired up.... just in time for summer! LOL.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2012, 09:34:31 pm by jason_rmh »

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Re: Lumbar support retrofit and heated seats retrofit on MK5 Golf Help Please
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2012, 09:47:41 pm »
Does anyone know what the little plug with the brown and purple wires is for? Im also trying to work out what the red / black wire in 8 is used for?


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Re: Lumbar support retrofit and heated seats retrofit on MK5 Golf Help Please
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2012, 10:24:41 am »
Does anyone know what the little plug with the brown and purple wires is for? Im also trying to work out what the red / black wire in 8 is used for?

That is for the seat occupied sensor for the seat belt warning

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Re: Lumbar support retrofit and heated seats retrofit on MK5 Golf Help Please
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 11:30:23 pm »
Only a year since buying the Kufatec loom, I decided to attempt wiring in the heated seats today!
I repaired the connector on the drivers seat which was chopped off by previous owner.

Wiring is in the car, routed to the general area. My seats are the later type, with only one heated seat control module under the passenger seat. I have electric lumbar adjustment and digital climate control.
I extended the loom to reach the passenger seat rather than swapping the seat looms over.

Based on the instructions from Kufatec and info from the forum and other sources I have the following wiring:

Earth Wires
Brown wires (with ring connectors)Earth point by bonnet release handle
Climate control panel
blue/redClimate control panel (pin 11)
blueClimate control panel (pin 10)
greyClimate control panel (pin 12)
Fuse Box
Red / white (thick wire)fuse box, 37, 30A
Grey (thin wire)fuse box, 8, 5A. 4 and 7 are already in use)
White (thin wire)CECM, Connector C, Pin 1
CECM
Grey (thick wire)CECM L2??? Fuse Box???

Im stumped on the thick grey wire. Im not sure if this goes to the fuse box or to the CECM?
If to the fuse box, which socket should it use?
If to the CECM, which connector / pin?

Kufatec says fuse box. But ive seen Central Electrics S44 mentioned in this thread. What does S44 relate to?

Finally, if I out one of these wires in the wrong place, how do I release them without damaging them? I know they have little tabs on, is there a tool used to get them out?

Jas
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Re: Lumbar support retrofit and heated seats retrofit on MK5 Golf Help Please
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2012, 09:59:57 am »
there is only one wire to the CECM

The grey wire is for the fuse box (i'm sure that is the power for lumber)
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there is only one wire to the CECM

The grey wire is for the fuse box (i'm sure that is the power for lumber)
Thanks Eddie!
Any pointers on which fuse location to use and what rating.  Its just as thick a wire as the red / white wire.

On another thread you said you had used 20A and it was a permanent live.
Do you know which fuse location to use for lumbar?

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Re: Lumbar support retrofit and heated seats retrofit on MK5 Golf Help Please
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2012, 11:34:53 am »
I think it is 15A
any permanent live will be ok
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Great,  ill get it finished today.
If I need to move a wire after ive fitted it, how do you get them out without damaging them?
How do you press the tabs in as theyre quite small.

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Re: Lumbar support retrofit and heated seats retrofit on MK5 Golf Help Please
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2012, 05:16:15 pm »
i use a special tool

but you can use 2 small screwdrivers
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Re: Lumbar support retrofit and heated seats retrofit on MK5 Golf Help Please
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2012, 10:27:33 pm »
All fitted and working!  :laugh:
Couldn't have done it without the help from this forum. I will do a proper write up for the how to section!
Thanks
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