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Re: FWD - Power to weight V's outright power which is best?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 11:11:09 pm »
Something like this:



This seems to explain pretty well how it would help



Wander how much of a difference that would make?  So VWRacing do things like this.  If i was to take the plunge on something like this, i would have to get it done by guys like that, who understand chassis dynamics a fair amount more than most.  Anyone can weld on some ties, but that sort of thing could make or break the handling id imagine.

Who else run teams in the VW cup that could undertake this kind of work, i know of VWRacing, Grant Motorsport and KPM racing.  Our rear beams are neigh on identical to the mk4 platform as well, so there might already be plenty of options available.  I presume theres plenty of the 1.8T Polo GTIs running in the VW Cup
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Re: FWD - Power to weight V's outright power which is best?
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2011, 11:52:44 pm »
^ Yep.

You can buy one straight off the shelf from VWR, Christ knows what it'd cost though? I'd imagine most MKIV chassis stuff in the race series will have a modded rear beam. I'm almost certain you can buy a kit from somewhere in Germany to do it yourself though, let me ask Tabs and get the name of it.

Joe Fullbrook pretty much built his Bora himself, and that dicked everything in the VWCup with a 3rd of the budget. He really knows his onions. Him or KPM may be an alternative to VWR.

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Re: FWD - Power to weight V's outright power which is best?
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2011, 11:41:12 am »
That's excellent info :happy2: Cheers guys.
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Re: FWD - Power to weight V's outright power which is best?
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2011, 11:51:34 am »
That's excellent info :happy2: Cheers guys.



Come on John, your the nominated guinea pig for this

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Re: FWD - Power to weight V's outright power which is best?
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2011, 12:18:42 pm »
'Reet.

Some people think you need IRS to be quick, the French have proven you don't. Most motorsport applications will run a modded rear beam.

Same theory as the MKV wishbone swap. You're getting cast wishbones which have more caster and camber, you can also sleeve the rear bush to make it near solid, as per the early TTs.

Added benefits of moving ARB location, flipping balljoints and giving better allowances for avoiding bump-steer when lowering.

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Defcon insert, note how small the new bush is going to be compared to a normal MKIV.

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Re: FWD - Power to weight V's outright power which is best?
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2011, 01:05:40 pm »
Just came across this here http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=4064  it says Polo mk5 1.2TSI.  Not sure what the deal s with this, the current Polois the mk8 iirc, but the 1.2TSI is a new engine!!!!! Might be because the USA haven't had the fill range of pools in the past.

This is basically triangulation

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Re: FWD - Power to weight V's outright power which is best?
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2011, 02:21:11 pm »
That appears to be bolted to the body, rather than the beam. I'm not convinced.
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