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Stage2+
« on: December 07, 2011, 05:16:23 pm »
Please dont bite my head off, just looking for opinions.

I am awaiting my exhaust being made up from BCS, and just ordered my Autotech hpfp from Rob@w8 performance (Good man/service).

So now its a decision to go Stage2 or Stage2+ ?

Is it a must to have a bigger intercooler ?
Is the engine safe at stage2+ ?

Ed30

Thank you

Eric




« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 06:28:01 pm by ktlstar »
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 06:14:09 pm »
2+ gives much more torque in the mid range and is safe providing it is set up and logged properly. On the other hand, people have said 2+ is a step too far and problems will develop over time.

Me, i went stg 1, stg 1+ (bdm cai with stg 1 map) and then straight to stg 2+. No problems so far accept a boost leak but plugs, filters, brakes etc all have to be changed more often so bear that in mind.

I say go 2+ and then you can scale it back to 2 quite easily if/when you want to.
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 08:10:30 pm »
That is my concern, reading others with stage2+. The car is used weekend so it wont be thrashed about, but it would be nice to have the power upgrade i.e s2+.


Are you Revo Berg? What is the cost for the software ?

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 11:45:52 pm »
the software is cheap to go up in stages (£50) and Revo have a winter deal on at mo to get the map (check their site or local revo dealer).

its the hardware that costs a lot - intercooler, full tbe, hpfp, cai but to get the most out of that you need suspension/transmission/braking upgrades which cost the real $$

how long do you plan to  keep the car? if not a long time i would prob stick at stg 1 and maybe get an itg on as well but ease to take back to standard.
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 12:15:04 am »
I am planning to go stage 2 with my Ed30, TBE, Twintake and remap, have thought about fuel pump upgrade but thats about as far as I will likely go as I dont want to be adding intercoolers, changing injectors or valves etc  :happy2:
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 12:17:47 am »
Eric... what other modifications does your car have? Are you on stock suspension?
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 08:36:30 am »
Thanks for the replies guys.

Im on Revo  stage 1 with ITG kit. AP coilovers is my suspension.

Berg- i will be keepin the car for a good 2-3 years.   


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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 12:43:36 pm »
Quote from: Tamiyoman on December 08, 2011, 12:15:04 am
I am planning to go stage 2 with my Ed30, TBE, Twintake and remap, have thought about fuel pump upgrade but thats about as far as I will likely go as I dont want to be adding intercoolers, changing injectors or valves etc  :happy2:


you dont need to change injectors, rods etc unless going stage 3/big turbo - the intercooler is definately recommended though - the forge twintercooler is easier to fit than the others if want to take off.
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 04:45:14 pm »
So i recieved my Internals today *thanks again Rob* however still debating whether to fit it if i was to just stay at stage2 software or sell it on / keep the money for elsewhere ? Ideas?

I see that its benificial at even Stage1 remap.
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011, 10:34:39 am »
get them fitted, new cam follower too as a very cheap part :happy2:
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011, 10:42:34 am »
I'd say go for stage 2+. I have the equivalent on the apparently "weaker" ko3 engine which now has done 106k flawlessly. Done since 50k.
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2011, 03:16:29 pm »
Im a little bothered about going more than stage one as ive just bought the car and its 5 years old, i plan on keeping it for another 5 years so it will be an old car when i get rid, will it be ok running stage 2 or more ? What could the consequences be ?
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2011, 05:33:33 pm »
Im going Shark Stage 3 soon (stage 2+)  As long as you service the car regularly there should be no real issues with the engine. Obviously when modifying parts do wear out quicker such as plugs.  But I accept that as part of the modifying game.  I wouldnt have any worries about fitting the HPFP internals as even standard cars benefit from them being fitted with no running issues.  Just make sure you dont rush installing them as it can be costly when done wrong.  Given the current weather and money not being a problem, I am going to get Shark to install it for me.
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2011, 06:05:36 pm »
Quote from: ktlstar on December 07, 2011, 05:16:23 pm
Please dont bite my head off, just looking for opinions.

I am awaiting my exhaust being made up from BCS, and just ordered my Autotech hpfp from Rob@w8 performance (Good man/service).

So now its a decision to go Stage2 or Stage2+ ?

Is it a must to have a bigger intercooler ?
Is the engine safe at stage2+ ?

Ed30

i am in exactly the same position as you mate, getting the pump internals and debating about the intercooler. Have revo stage 2 on my ed30 with itg and a bcs tbe and dsg

Thank you

Eric





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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2011, 07:23:01 pm »
Well I had a shark stage 3 on my car.
I've spent £4k trying to get the car right again., had a new new turbo and the engine rebuilt.
 I dont thrash the car, no track days etc. Worst its ever had was 3 trips down the strip at inters, and I let it cool down properly after each run! No idea what caused the problem, but I wont be going back to stage 2+/3 again  :scared:
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