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Offline micky 32

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2011, 07:35:26 pm »
When they done the engine rebuild what did they find wrong?
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2011, 09:11:04 am »
Needed new piston rings, valve stem oil seals etc. Car still not right, it's been in garages since the first week in September

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2011, 09:38:24 am »
Running too lean , causing the engine to det ? Sorry to hear that about your engine.


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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 05:36:44 pm »
Running too lean , causing the engine to det ? Sorry to hear that about your engine.



According to the logs, it was running rich if anything!

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 07:13:00 pm »
Too much timing ?  Interesting.
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2011, 03:57:42 pm »
Thankfully mne is only the Octy Vrs so stage 3 will be about 280bhp. So for me stage 3 should be fine.  Modifying is luck of the draw.  You could have someone with identical mods as heavyd and it run perfect.  Just the joys and woes of modifying
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2011, 04:06:14 pm »
Like all that has been said here, the higher the state of tune that you run the more knowledge and understanding of the car you need to understand all the variables at play - anyone running Stage 2+ in my mind should have a half decent knowledge about data logging using VCDS and, if running Revo, a clear understanding of boost, timing and fuelling settings and the relationships that these have on each other in order to optimise your tune, which will change during the year. I have had no issues running my car Stage 2+ (ED30) for the past 2 years and have done over 40k at this state of tune with no problems.

Looking after the car with frequent oil checks etc and high levels of general maintenance all help.

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2011, 07:45:51 pm »
Guess that's the benefits of revo. I just had to keep asking for map revisions to knock back timing or boost all the time. But in the end it must have been too late. I was using half a dipstick of oil every 250 miles before it went in for repair

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2011, 03:21:04 pm »
Whats the difference between stage2 and stage2+ software ?

Because i will be fitting the hpfp does it mean i will have to get the s2+ software ?

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2011, 04:30:33 pm »
Whats the difference between stage2 and stage2+ software ?

Because i will be fitting the hpfp does it mean i will have to get the s2+ software ?

You can safely install stage 2 software with an uprated hpfp but to get the max benefit of the pump you'll need software that caters specifically for it's inclusion i.e. stage 2+.   :smiley:
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2011, 05:40:50 pm »
I see - So there is no point installing the HPFP is if i decide to stick with stage2 software ? Yet iv read in this review
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14350.0.html

That it helps alot even at Stage1. ?

Thanks

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2011, 01:38:13 pm »
It isnt a necessity, it with just give you a bit of extra mid range torque

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2011, 04:52:15 pm »
Dom, apart from the fact you have been the unluckiest Mk5 Golf owner on the planet  :scared: Do you really think that Stage 2+/3 caused this damage? Or do you think the car has always had an inherent problem and the tuning just made it worse?
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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2011, 01:36:22 am »
Dom, apart from the fact you have been the unluckiest Mk5 Golf owner on the planet  :scared: Do you really think that Stage 2+/3 caused this damage? Or do you think the car has always had an inherent problem and the tuning just made it worse?
Wish I knew mate. The car ran fine with superchips and PDT remaps, had no issues whatsoever, the hiccup with Revo was found on loads of cars after inters, and was down to the actual map and not the car.
All I know is, I've only had the car for about 3 weeks in the last 3 months, rest of time it has spent at the dealers, after the turbo was fitted and engine rebuilt, the intank fuel pump died, the low pressure fuel sensor died, and now the garage reckons the fuel regulator has died, and that HPFP has only done about 3000miles max since new! The milltek downpipe had all cracked around the flange, after scouring loads of places in the northe east to get it fixed, I ended up at a dead end, I phoned Milltek and managed to speak to Phill Millington, who chopped it off at the cat, and replaced the full exhaust upwards of the car for free :pomppomp: at least one good thing came of the whole experience :drinking:
Car has no power from 2000rpm - 4000rpm at all, overboosts like hell when the boost does actually finally come in at 3700rpm ( 2bar of boost). N75 has been replaced etc etc. Car still in garage, TPS isnt getting any HPFP's in until 4th january, so theres another few more weeks without the car....
I would only stick at stage 2 from now on, but obviously loads of people have been happy with it and had no issues, I'm just voicing my opinion :xmassmiley:

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Re: Stage2+
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2011, 01:06:11 pm »
Does stage2 or stage2+ software have to be done on a rolling road ? Or can it all be done on road ?



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