Whiteline Anti Lift Kit

[MAT ED30]

You need bushes 1 and 2 is what the walk kit replaces

[SteveP]

You need bushes 1 and 2 is what the walk kit replaces

i.e the one's I linked to 

[cuprak1]

Gotcha! makes sense now i was looking at it all backwards hehe

[cuprak1]

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If it's any help to those wanting the WALK after reading this review, I know that there's currently a 20% discount offer from Balance Motorsport.

Linky : - WALK 20% Special Offer....

this offer is no longer active, i can confirm the cheapest i have found the kit for so far is £135.50 inc. VAT

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/whiteline-anti-lift-kit-leon-1p-14-14t-si-16-19tdi-20fsi-cupra-20t-fsi-fr-20t-si-20tdi-fr-20tdi-0504-p-3620.html

[john_o]

and in this case Awesome are competitive even before you ask for discount  £135 too
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=11788

[xxx_mojo_xxx]

Anyone considering this mod/upgrade I would say "do it"... It's friggin' fantastic what it does to the traction of the car.

[cuprak1]

and in this case Awesome are competitive even before you ask for discount  £135 too
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=11788

sorry but thats 20p over budget lol

how much is awesome delivery? DPM is  £9.95 and is usually dispatched within 24 hours.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Thank you very much for taking the time to do this excellent write up. I also have this mod and agree with all of the above, For me though the steering feels a bit heavier, But only adds to the feel giving me more confidence. 

That is a direct result in increasing castor angle.   Do you notice that it 'self-centres' more positively too? 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

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IMPORTANT:

If you install this AntiLift kit it's advisable to upgrade the bushes on the other side of the wishbone. This is because the stock bushes are softer than the ones integrated into the Whiteline kit and loading will transfer to the 'weaker' oem bush and could eventually cause failure.

Is it not better to wait and see if there is any evidence of this RR as no one has reported it so far and they have been on Mk 4's for some time obviously it is worth monitoring but, TT mentioned this would start compromising the feel of the car if i remember rightly. 

There is categorically no NEED to uprate the front bushings for the WALK to work as designed.

However, if you desire on fitting uprating front bushings for a diferent reason, then that is a diferent issue.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Then i shall just repeat what his opinion on the subject was and i wont say a word more. 

Quote from: Top Cat on October 31, 2008, 02:16:16 pm
While i have you what do you think about the suggestion of uprating the bushes on the front wishbone as well i think VW racing mentioned it may also be a good idea to RedRobin but they have not looked into it as yet for him. so whats your thought's.

TT's quote

Uprated poly bushes on the leading edge of the lower wishbones (or indeed on any suspension component) are a bit of a grey area.  Yes, they will marginally improve the feel, and generall handling.  However, they are no where near as compliant as the standard rubber bushes.  Poly suspension bushes, which include the WALK, will give more noise through the car, and will create much more harsh "feelings" inside the car.  If you have a wife or kids, or generally enjoy the refinement of the car, I would just stick with the WALK, and leave the front bushes standard.

Just remember that VW Racing are race car or motorsport specialists.  You need someone who knows what works best on the road.

....And I will refer to what I have already written and add that the bottom line is what each individual wants from their GTI/Ed30. Having driven two GTI's with polybushes throughout I personally didn't find it to be the problem I expected. But ETTO.

Actually, thinking about this a bit more, if you are fitting mods such as WALK's and coilovers etc, you are already entering the twilight world of the overlap between road and track. So I don't agree with what TT has said about VWR's 'limited' knowledge of fast road needs.

Hmmmmm . . . . you only need to look at VWRs big brake kit for the Mk5.  They have clearly been designed as soley a race product, which has then had a change of frock for road use - and their short-comings are highly apparent on the road!

You really need to look at just how long VWR were a 'race-only' outfit, and just how little time they have spent in the 'road-car' world.  And before anyone starts throwing toys out of their cots, this is NOT a dig at VWR - just an honest observation - as I have massive respect for what VWR do in the race paddock, and really like Sam too. 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Found a little video of the walk kit in action, fitted to a new polo gti though

That is a SUPERB vid - and clearly shows just how much the standard bush moves.  But it also sorta proves that Whiteline didn't think that uprating the fronts was necessary! 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

This looks like an interesting mod - Does it help reduce the torque steer, that comes with a modded ED30, mine does have a hefty pull to the right in the lower gears???

Cheers

....According to john_o in his original post: Yes.

However I would say that it reduces rather than eliminates understeer - Which is what I think he's reporting as well. If you really want to grasp the bull by its horns, then a Quaife ATB diff would be the most effective solution but it costs many times more money.

The new Golf R you have on order will, as you know, have VW's electronic diff. It feels much more remote and less satisfying to drive when pressing on but it is a great improvement.

Dispite what all the marketing bollox may state, I strongly doubt that it will have a genuine 'electronic' diff.  What it will actually be is just a conventional old skool open diff, but use the ESP to brake the inner wheel during acceleration during turns - just like on the current Mk5.5 Mk6 GTI - basically a two Euro tweak to the ESP software coding! 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

^^^ These - http://www.jbsautodesigns.co.uk/product/2435/front-wishbone-inner-bush-front 

hmm are you sure.. i think its the bushes closer to the rear which we need (number 2)

NOOOOO.  Number 2 are what the WALK replaces.  If you want to go for the additional (but 100% un-necessary) fronts, then you'll need powerflex number ones

[cuprak1]

no worries cheers

its mainly for peice of mine and if im changing them all and getting the laser wheel alignment done its all good

[Igor]

Just had mine fitted, along with some Eibach sportlines and ARB's, jeez what a difference, it no longer lifts when accelerating, and all trace of understeer has gone, it just goes where it's pointed, no dramas, just bags of grip, worth every penny