Whiteline Anti Lift Kit

[GrayMK5GTI]

Is it worth me replacing the subframe bolts with these?

They are cheaper from VW mate by about £5. See Mandy's thread for part no's 

....But aren't these ECS bolts a different spec and much better than VW OEM's?

They look like the ones we just bought in a Group Buy here.

I may have missed a thread or two Robin but I was under the impression that the two were the same thing (with a difference in price)?? I'm sure Mandy and a few others just bought the OEM ones which cured the subframe movement & noise.

Just had a look at the group buy, they are purchased from TPS which I believe means they are OEM parts (TPS only seem to sell genuine parts). I may be wrong though 

[RedRobin]

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My understanding is that the bolts and spacers we recently bought in the Group Buy are different from the OEM ones and are high tensile non-stretch.

[vRSAlex]

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My understanding is that the bolts and spacers we recently bought in the Group Buy are different from the OEM ones and are high tensile non-stretch.

They are OEM Robin and the same you would buy from VW etc. 

[RedRobin]

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My understanding is that the bolts and spacers we recently bought in the Group Buy are different from the OEM ones and are high tensile non-stretch.

They are OEM Robin and the same you would buy from VW etc. 

....Really? Are they a relatively new version/revision by VW?

How do you explain that these are non-stretch and that earlier ones were stretch bolts? [so I'm told].

[vRSAlex]

They are an oem upgrade.  The bolt is used on many vag cars from factory.  I'm sure its the same bolt that's been fitted to the a4's/passats etc for years.

I will check the strength rating of the bolt compared to the one it replaces.

[RedRobin]

They are an oem upgrade.  The bolt is used on many vag cars from factory.  I'm sure its the same bolt that's been fitted to the a4's/passats etc for years.

I will check the strength rating of the bolt compared to the one it replaces.

....I only bought them because I thought they were better than on my 05-plate 06-plate car.

Thanks, Alex 

[vRSAlex]

They are an oem upgrade.  The bolt is used on many vag cars from factory.  I'm sure its the same bolt that's been fitted to the a4's/passats etc for years.

I will check the strength rating of the bolt compared to the one it replaces.

....I only bought them because I thought they were better than on my 05-plate 06-plate car.

Thanks, Alex 

If your subframe doesn't and had never moved then there is no point in buying them.  They are a different bolt with a good sized washer on them to spread the load and give more surface to hold, but still an oem bolt but from another car.

[RedRobin]

They are an oem upgrade.  The bolt is used on many vag cars from factory.  I'm sure its the same bolt that's been fitted to the a4's/passats etc for years.

I will check the strength rating of the bolt compared to the one it replaces.

....I only bought them because I thought they were better than on my 05-plate 06-plate car.

Thanks, Alex 

If your subframe doesn't and had never moved then there is no point in buying them.  They are a different bolt with a good sized washer on them to spread the load and give more surface to hold, but still an oem bolt but from another car.

....Too late! I've bought them so I'll use them. Will be interesting to see how tight my existing bolts are. 

[RedRobin]

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Re: WALK and SuperPro:

Apparently, SuperPro used to manufacture the bushes for the WALK - They no longer do. Also, the poly used by both companies is very similar. The cases of WALK insert failure (as Tsi_Mike's example) is about 1 in 500 and, of those, much more commonly in cars driven very hard or on track.

IF anyone experiences WALK bush failure, then the most economic solution (I don't know what WALK's warranty is like) is to buy the appropriate SuperPro bushes which will fit into your OEM consoles (of course you did keep them, didn't you!) and you won't lose any WALK features, so I'm told.

Here are some of Tsi_Mike's example pics:

[Tfsi_Mike]

Yes those WALK bushes were removed from my car.  To be frank they hadn't had that much 'abuse' in terms of fast / hard cornering.

Perhaps the occasional contact with wheel cleaning product?  Not sure.

[bacillus]

Yes those WALK bushes were removed from my car.  To be frank they hadn't had that much 'abuse' in terms of fast / hard cornering.

Perhaps the occasional contact with wheel cleaning product?  Not sure.

What specific product are you alluding to?

[Tfsi_Mike]

There isn't a particular one. Just that if you have an open Style wheel, an acidic wheel cleaner may have some effect on the rubber?

[vRSAlex]

The wear on Mikes were mainly due to the supplied grease drying up.

My WALK kit had been on my car for nearly 2 years, the grease was still good, but the bushes had started to crack.

I was unaware that SuperPro made the bushes for Whiteline.  I will enquire with SuperPro to see what they say.

[RedRobin]

I was unaware that SuperPro made the bushes for Whiteline.  I will enquire with SuperPro to see what they say.

....I was told this by JKM who usually get their facts right. Note that they said that this was only in the early days of WALK.

[jedi-knight83]

There isn't a particular one. Just that if you have an open Style wheel, an acidic wheel cleaner may have some effect on the rubber?

acid wheel cleaners are nasty stuff. they will ruin any nice looking brake / suspension metal very quickly.

For regular use i use and recommend autoglym custom wheels (or simply acid free wheel cleaner in its trade form)