£60 FINE for Metal Pressed plates!

[Boothy]

Why do people always love to jump on the Police for making a mistake. Does my fooking tits in!

Unfortunately the police spend a vast amount of there time having to teach parents how to bring there kids up correctly and deal with stupid members of the public who think Carol Singers should be arrested as they are intimidating. Therefore not every minute change to the legislation covering every little think is conveyed or remembered.
 It should, yes, but its not always possible.

Simply opt to go to Court, take your plates with you and send a short letter to the Force Solicitor asking to be compensated for any lost earnings caused by attendting court. No need to try and bust any ones balls because one day that might be you who make a mistake at work and would you want all the hassle causing? I think not!

 And as for the ridiculous remarks like the one which refer to the police not doing anything about a burglary or shed burglary why don't you just get a grip on reality. Was the crime witnessed, were there any forensics left at the scene etc etc. They can't just make sh*t up to investigate. If there ain't sh*t to do, there ain't sh*t to do!

[edd666999]

Why do people always love to jump on the Police for making a mistake. Does my fooking tits in!

Unfortunately the police spend a vast amount of there time having to teach parents how to bring there kids up correctly and deal with stupid members of the public who think Carol Singers should be arrested as they are intimidating. Therefore not every minute change to the legislation covering every little think is conveyed or remembered.
 It should, yes, but its not always possible.

Simply opt to go to Court, take your plates with you and send a short letter to the Force Solicitor asking to be compensated for any lost earnings caused by attendting court. No need to try and bust any ones balls because one day that might be you who make a mistake at work and would you want all the hassle causing? I think not!

 And as for the ridiculous remarks like the one which refer to the police not doing anything about a burglary or shed burglary why don't you just get a grip on reality. Was the crime witnessed, were there any forensics left at the scene etc etc. They can't just make sh*t up to investigate. If there ain't sh*t to do, there ain't sh*t to do!

ditto to this. Police do their job to the best of their ability, want them to spend more time learning changes to law? want them to spend more time looking into the obviously unsolvable cases? Ask the government to increase tax to pay for all those extra officers to cover the ones out looking for your leprechaun you lost two Tuesdays back.

OP you plates look legal i'm sure there will be no issue getting it dismissed.

[rich83]

... the problem arises when the police dont fully understand the law.

[Viking]

Problem arises when Joe phones the Police to report a garage burglary and gets told in not so many words "Here's a crime number for your insurance. No one will attend because we're too busy arguing with a car owner about the legality of his plates." Plates which to all intents and purposes are legal, stamped as legal, and have attracted a £60 tax revenue fine.

Is it any wonder people have little good to say about the police, really.

When faced with the fact that the plates are as legal as they need to be, why not just say sorry and go catch the burglars, instead of arguing about something they clearly have insufficient knowledge of.

[Top Cat]

Why do people always love to jump on the Police for making a mistake. Does my fooking tits in!

Unfortunately the police spend a vast amount of there time having to teach parents how to bring there kids up correctly and deal with stupid members of the public who think Carol Singers should be arrested as they are intimidating. Therefore not every minute change to the legislation covering every little think is conveyed or remembered.
 It should, yes, but its not always possible.

Simply opt to go to Court, take your plates with you and send a short letter to the Force Solicitor asking to be compensated for any lost earnings caused by attendting court. No need to try and bust any ones balls because one day that might be you who make a mistake at work and would you want all the hassle causing? I think not!

 And as for the ridiculous remarks like the one which refer to the police not doing anything about a burglary or shed burglary why don't you just get a grip on reality. Was the crime witnessed, were there any forensics left at the scene etc etc. They can't just make sh*t up to investigate. If there ain't sh*t to do, there ain't sh*t to do!

I, 100% agree with this rant. 

To add to this traffic police dont just go around pulling people for illegal plates they also have to attend lots of very serious accidents, which unless you are inhuman can only rub off on your attitude to petty motoring offences. I recently had to organise a sort of training day for the 15 guys in our team at work we all do a lot of driving so our company who cares for us, arranged for a retired traffic cop to come in and chat to us all. he showed us lots of statistics of the type of people who are likely to cause accidents on the road  and ways of spotting them. He also told us that he was the family liaison officer who had the job of telling families that their husband, wife or child had just died in a car accident.  He then has to escort them to the morgue to identify there loved ones. He then has to wait in the family home while more family turn up and tell them the same thing. 
After seeing this once or twice a week on Cheshire's roads he openly admitted that he became very intolerant to any offences on the roads.
I think it would do the same to me to be honest, so sometimes we should give them a bit of slack for being pedantic or inflexible and if we are doing something illegal hold our hand up and accept responsibility for our actions.  ( not pointed at the op with this waffle, just in general. ). 
 

[AjayB]

... the problem arises when the police dont fully understand the law.

Problem arises when Joe phones the Police to report a garage burglary and gets told in not so many words "Here's a crime number for your insurance. No one will attend because we're too busy arguing with a car owner about the legality of his plates." Plates which to all intents and purposes are legal, stamped as legal, and have attracted a £60 tax revenue fine.

Is it any wonder people have little good to say about the police, really.

When faced with the fact that the plates are as legal as they need to be, why not just say sorry and go catch the burglars, instead of arguing about something they clearly have insufficient knowledge of.

I totally agree with you two.

Tbh, the police shouldn't need to be stuck up for, its their profession to deal with any matter which concerns the law, this in turn means they should indeed know each bit of legislation to do with their area of policing (in this case the so called traffic cops should know exactly what a plate should be like)..  Hats off to the police as they do do some tough things and attend some horrific scenes. But in this country these days it seems the police tend to get 'bored' and just look for things to entertain them. In the case of the plates the police officers in questions knew NOTHING as they even wanted to give me a fine for having my indicators set to be used as 'sidelights' which i kindly corrected them is 100% legal, only blue lights are illegal to which they shut up and backed down from.

Even after speaking with an officer at the station on new years eve, he had his own opinions on how some police decide to spend their time on the job.. he reiterated that they should have known the exact law and if they were deemed to be 'illegal' they should have been removed for evidence if it went to court.

just to put the point across you wouldn't want your childrens maths teacher to not know what 10+10 was, therefore i wouldn't expect a specialised policeman such as a traffic cop to not know the correct legislation either.

[sub39h]

Why do people always love to jump on the Police for making a mistake. Does my fooking tits in!

Unfortunately the police spend a vast amount of there time having to teach parents how to bring there kids up correctly and deal with stupid members of the public who think Carol Singers should be arrested as they are intimidating. Therefore not every minute change to the legislation covering every little think is conveyed or remembered.
 It should, yes, but its not always possible.

Simply opt to go to Court, take your plates with you and send a short letter to the Force Solicitor asking to be compensated for any lost earnings caused by attendting court. No need to try and bust any ones balls because one day that might be you who make a mistake at work and would you want all the hassle causing? I think not!

 And as for the ridiculous remarks like the one which refer to the police not doing anything about a burglary or shed burglary why don't you just get a grip on reality. Was the crime witnessed, were there any forensics left at the scene etc etc. They can't just make sh*t up to investigate. If there ain't sh*t to do, there ain't sh*t to do!

I, 100% agree with this rant. 

To add to this traffic police dont just go around pulling people for illegal plates they also have to attend lots of very serious accidents, which unless you are inhuman can only rub off on your attitude to petty motoring offences. I recently had to organise a sort of training day for the 15 guys in our team at work we all do a lot of driving so our company who cares for us, arranged for a retired traffic cop to come in and chat to us all. he showed us lots of statistics of the type of people who are likely to cause accidents on the road  and ways of spotting them. He also told us that he was the family liaison officer who had the job of telling families that their husband, wife or child had just died in a car accident.  He then has to escort them to the morgue to identify there loved ones. He then has to wait in the family home while more family turn up and tell them the same thing. 
After seeing this once or twice a week on Cheshire's roads he openly admitted that he became very intolerant to any offences on the roads.
I think it would do the same to me to be honest, so sometimes we should give them a bit of slack for being pedantic or inflexible and if we are doing something illegal hold our hand up and accept responsibility for our actions.  ( not pointed at the op with this waffle, just in general. ). 
 

just a point with the bit i've put in bold. i got pulled around this time last year for illegal plates. yes i broke the law so the fine is fair. but i don't buy for one second that illegal plates like mine could have given a traffic officer any cause for alarm. i do not for one second condone plates where the characters are of the incorrect type face or are obstructed by bolts and the like, but my number plate was the correct font just spaced DR X XXXX instead of DRXX XXX because it spells my title, first initial and surname.

i wasn't aware that a doctor in a fully insured, well maintained MOT'ed car with good tyres was a threat to society? i don't even have points on my license. i wasn't speeding and i'm waiting to sit my test with IAM so i don't buy that it was my driving style that alerted him.

the week before that my car had been keyed in a car park with CCTV (i.e. there WAS evidence) and when i called the police they actually said to me "if you can get the parking company to review the CCTV for us and identify who it might have been then we'll proceed". ofc the company didn't want to know, and the police had no interest in pursuing it. you can bet they found my dangerous numberplate though and relieved me of my £60.

[Top Cat]

just to put the point across you wouldn't want your childrens maths teacher to not know what 10+10 was, therefore i wouldn't expect the a specialised policeman such as a traffic cop to not know the correct legislation either.

Yes i would want my child's maths teacher to know what 10 = 10 was.

See you just made a mistake and you have been writing since you were 6.  lets send you to the gallows. 
Just go and have your day in court if he was wrong then prove him wrong. 

[Boothy]

What you'll find is that the police are more familiar with law pertaining to things they deal with day to day and sometimes tiny things change that may not be obvious as the info is not used on a regular basis. If an officer knew every minute ser of law they would likely be a very good barrister. Even a solicitor who studies law for year would not know the legislation on plates off the top of there head. An officer is expected to.

As for attending burglaries then what is the point in driving there with the blues and twos on, and risking lives for a job where nobody is in danger and no suspect is still at the scene. Especially when somebody somewhere is being assaulted, stabbed, and murdered or something else that you, in your short sightedness is un aware of.

[rich83]

just to put the point across you wouldn't want your childrens maths teacher to not know what 10+10 was, therefore i wouldn't expect the a specialised policeman such as a traffic cop to not know the correct legislation either.

Yes i would want my child's maths teacher to know what 10 = 10 was.

See you just made a mistake and you have been writing since you were 6.   lets send you to the gallows.  

Just go and have your day in court if he was wrong then prove him wrong.  

But the grammer (hahah) police don't issue you a £60 fine, and then expect you to go here and there to get your money back.

If the police are unsure of the law, they should (in this case) have issued a producer, and the issue regarding the legality of the plate be dealt with at the Police station.

[Boothy]

The bit where the police have told you to contact the CCTV company is really poor. No excuses for that.

[n13cah]

Is the number plate manufacturer listed as an approved supplier by the DVLA?
Anybody can print a BS mark on the bottom.

[edd666999]

... the problem arises when the police dont fully understand the law.

Problem arises when Joe phones the Police to report a garage burglary and gets told in not so many words "Here's a crime number for your insurance. No one will attend because we're too busy arguing with a car owner about the legality of his plates." Plates which to all intents and purposes are legal, stamped as legal, and have attracted a £60 tax revenue fine.

Is it any wonder people have little good to say about the police, really.

When faced with the fact that the plates are as legal as they need to be, why not just say sorry and go catch the burglars, instead of arguing about something they clearly have insufficient knowledge of.

I totally agree with you two.

Tbh, the police shouldn't need to be stuck up for, its their profession to deal with any matter which concerns the law, this in turn means they should indeed know each bit of legislation to do with their area of policing (in this case the so called traffic cops should know exactly what a plate should be like)..  Hats off to the police as they do do some tough things and attend some horrific scenes. But in this country these days it seems the police tend to get 'bored' and just look for things to entertain them. In the case of the plates the police officers in questions knew NOTHING as they even wanted to give me a fine for having my indicators set to be used as 'sidelights' which i kindly corrected them is 100% legal, only blue lights are illegal to which they shut up and backed down from.

Even after speaking with an officer at the station on new years eve, he had his own opinions on how some police decide to spend their time on the job.. he reiterated that they should have known the exact law and if they were deemed to be 'illegal' they should have been removed for evidence if it went to court.

just to put the point across you wouldn't want your childrens maths teacher to not know what 10+10 was, therefore i wouldn't expect a specialised policeman such as a traffic cop to not know the correct legislation either.

Your right i would expect them to know what 10+10 was and i expect the police to know the difference between right and wrong, but i wouldn't expect the maths teacher to read about all the different new ways to work out pie or new ways to do long multiplication, as i wouldn't expect every officer to be able to recite the law on reg plates.

I'm also sure he wasn't sitting there thinking "oh look one of the top10 most wanted just walked past me, actually i will just stop this guy for his plates instead"

Its a shame so many people have a negative opinion of people who IMO do the best with the tools, money and time available to them. There are exceptions to very rule as in every area of life but to tarnish all police because this one guy didn't know the law on reg plates is harsh.

[AjayB]

I'm not too sure if they are an approved supplier to be honest. All i went by is the eBay page, positive feedback and his replies to any questions i had prior to purchase. In a recent email he mentioned that he's never had any problems with the plates he has supplied before.

The link :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pressed-Metal-number-plates-100-ROAD-LEGAL-/120751545173?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c1d5a5b55#ht_1243wt_1142

[Viking]

Is the number plate manufacturer listed as an approved supplier by the DVLA?
Anybody can print a BS mark on the bottom.

I asked this, as the company he bought the plates from is not registered as a plate supplier.